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why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 19:37:42
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tristram
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i started dieting march 10th. by march 18th i was down to 14.5.
april 22nd i weighed 14.2. so iveonly lost 3 lbs in 6 weeks. i cant understand it because in all this time ive consumed on a daily basis around 2200 calories and done cardio and hiit cardio at least 5 times a week.
how much can i really lower the calories? im already feeling the effects as it is, im lacking energy and feeling spaced out the last week or more.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 19:43:33
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are you still obsessing with the goddamn scales?
im not obessing as such. the last time i cut i could see visible every week that on average the numbers were going down.
i think there must be something wrong with what im doing if in 6 weeks its gone down by 3lbs.
visually, ive gone wobbly and soft as of late so i cant even tell anymore by looking.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 19:50:53
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then i dont know how else i can know im progressing. i see my self everyday in the mirror. my clothes are nothing getting any looser than they did at the start of dieting.
if anything i seem to be getting worse, but ak reckons its the type of fat i was burning. but now im down to this wobbly jelly ****, i look like a blob!
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 19:58:49
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What's your diet looking like mate?
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:02:59
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i am getting on with it. its more a case of **** all seems to be happening no matter how much i keep doing it.
AlasTTTair, core diet is
5 white 2 yolk
3* bread
apple
snack 1
fromage frais tub
apple
pre wo
6 white
cheese oat cakes
pwo
100g pasta
mince 200g
snack 2
30g whey
oat cakes
bed
whey and mpc, omega 3 caps
which gives 225 protein 198.5 carb 53.4 fat
it was a similar calorie count but different ratio before. but i thought id drop fat and protein to get more carbs. as i probably dont even need 225 protein but it was 250.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:07:30
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i made it in excel hence its accuracy.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:09:36
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and who says whats on the packets of food are even accurate to begin with?
they probably arnt but how else can you get a rough idea to know what youre doing?
eat a handful of this and a bowls worth of that? you can count like that or use numbers, whats the difference?
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:12:01
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use a tape measure around your waist for progress.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:22:40
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Hey tris,
I posted a similar thread so i "feel your pain" 
Last week or 2 weight loss for me has halted, and im losing LESS now than i was when i WASNT doing cardio(previously when i cut), so its very odd (im 6ft 2, 165lbs and 1800kcal diet).
Give it a few more days yet, perhaps another week is a good idea as the scales could drop 3lbs randomly as TIO said weight loss seems to take some random patterns sometimes(and we all know what carbs and water can do to the scales).
As for how you look, thats probably a bad indicator in a sense. Weight loss seems for me to be relative, so if i lost alot and look great week 1, then week 2 i dont see same improves it feels like it slowed down. Also we see ourselves every day so its even harder to say if there are any changes(theyre not dramatic, therefore not obvious to us).
Have you taken measurements of waist/chest/hips/thighs etc? They're a good indicator IMO, generally they drop and water gain doesnt really effect them.
Similrly caliper skinfolds are handy, ive taken 3(top, middle, bottom ab) to see how they reduce as the weight is slowly coming off my stomach now so these will help to gauge it.
Failing that, perhaps you need a refeed after 6 weeks. have you had any cheat meals or breaks from the diet?
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:23:17
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i can understand what youre saying but to me those ways are both the same, youre measuring something by one way or another.
its like saying instead of eating x eggs, fill a shoe with eggs and eat that many. but if you gain too much, fill a smaller shoe.
richsins : yes i have had cheats. what i posted is simply the core diet. i do eat other things as and when i feel it. though im not saying i eat a pizza everyday. if i want a biscuit i eat a biscuit. if i want a pint i will drink it. that is simply what i aim to eat each day. some days i may not eat anything extra, other days i'll have a scoop of ice cream. etc if i know i will be "cheating" in advance, i just mod the diet to allow for the calories.
"other days" is once or twice a week. i dont really crave hese junk foods, just fancy em now and then
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:34:52
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Ah, youve got more variables to blame than me sadly.
I weight, measure and record everything. As you said, a hand full of oats is just a cavemans weight of measuring, wheter we call it handfulls, grams or litres its all the same **** A MEASUREMENT.
Regaurding nutritional info, well if your eating all similar foods overtime it'll even out to a certain extent and if not, its all relative.
If i really eat 1500kcals, but think according to my calculations if 1800kcals... then so what? Ill still use the same nutritional information packets to eat to a level of 1800 in my eyes. When i come to bulk, ill just add another 500kcals to that and eat at 2300. Just because that is now 2000kcals really due to inaccuracys in calorie bombing etc, it doesn't matter.... its relative.
The fact your having cheats (and they sound like common occurances?) would be the first thing to drop, weigh yourself every tuesday after waking and se how this week goes IMO.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:40:32
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personally i dont think i could put it down to eating 5 custard creams a week.
and if i know i will be "cheating" i modify the calories to include them so i dont think im going over too much in that area either.
i can stick to the core diet the next 2 weeks no problem and see what happens.
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:49:03
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Honestly i think if youve been losing .5lb a week, waiting another TWO weeks to see the same **** is a waste of time, give it another week.
Meanwhile drop the 2 apples, add in some fibrous veg(low calorie stuff, lettuce/cucumber/celery/runner beans/brocolli/cauliflower that'll drop maybe ~200kcal off your diet and if this week still gives you no weight loss, then atleast those 200kcals will translate to around ~1/3rd lb which is better than 0 right?
How much cardio you doing? 5x a week but what duration/type?
If no weight loss this week, youll need to cut it lower. Whats your height?
You said no to refeeds, so perhaps thats an option over lowering calories next week, not sure. Lyle talks about them in his books and says this give sucess to alot of people (bar the odd few who are either to fat in the first place, or just dont respond well).
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RE: why is my cut failing - Apr. 28 2008 20:56:55
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i was doing hiit 3 times a week for 30 minutes and 40 mins steady x 4 after weights.
im about 6ft3 and around 14.2 atm. dont know waist but 34" trousers are looseish.
ill drop the apples then and see what that does. but again is 200cals really that much?
i can appreciate weight loss is not linear, but surely the body is not so disorded that one week it will lose nothing then the next week it decides it will drop the fat? as far as i know it trys to keeps an equilibrium, and going to the far ends of none linear does not seem balanced to me.
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