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BLADE_79 -> Going to failure! (Apr. 28 2008 22:29:52)

I was just curious about this as have seen it writtien a few times in various threads and arctiles..

Anyway what my question is what do you actually mean by going to failiure and what are the dissadvantages of doing it continuely. read people saying not to go to failure too often or once in a while etc. Would it effect gains or require more recovery?

For example if I was bench pressing doing 3x10.
If i did 10, 10, and i could easily do 10 in the last set but pushed as hard as i could to squeeze out say 14 and couldnt do any more would that mean going to failure? and if i continued to push say the following week i increased the weight and did 10 10 13 and soo on... and continued over and over. or even the other way round 10 10 7. 7 being all i could do in the last set..then 8.. then 9 etc. would that also be counted as going to failure.

lol it looks like a real lame ass question now that im readint through it but just something id wanna know.. Personally i thought pushing out as many as u can and going to faliure at the end would be a good thing..........



aldo -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 2:14:46)

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-cns-overtraining.aspx


BLADE_79 -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 11:24:30)

Cheers Bud. [;)]


MonkFinger -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 15:08:40)

Well, you've only got so much capacity for recovery, so failure on every exercise is not a brilliant idea in the long run, especially if you're doing it on squats or similar.


Having said that I push to failure on shoulder exercises, as (1) my shoulders are a bit of a weak point and (2) they're a small group so hopefully won't batter my nervous system when doing so.


Icemansoldier -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 18:32:12)

Failure = when you really have to push the last rep

Past Failure = would mean when you have a spotter helping you get out a few extra reps

thats the way i see it, someone tell me if im wrong but im pretty confident the above is a good description [&:]


buzzer -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 19:30:12)

form faliure,ie you cant perform the next rep with the same(correct)form as the last one.

muscle faliure,ie you cant lift the weight.


dazza1969 -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 21:32:31)


quote:

ORIGINAL: aldo

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-cns-overtraining.aspx

Intersting read that, I often get a mental block even though I know for a fact I done more reps last time, this helps explain that.



stephen77 -> RE: Going to failure! (Apr. 29 2008 23:55:08)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier

Failure = when you really have to push the last rep

Past Failure = would mean when you have a spotter helping you get out a few extra reps

thats the way i see it, someone tell me if im wrong but im pretty confident the above is a good description [&:]


Failure is when you can't complete a rep. if you complete the rep you have not failed.

Plus you can have negatvie and static failure as well
negative failure - when you can't control the negative portion of the lift.
Static failure - when you can't hold a weight still.


beefycol -> RE: Going to failure! (May 1 2008 2:01:19)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier

Failure = when you really have to push the last rep

Past Failure = would mean when you have a spotter helping you get out a few extra reps

thats the way i see it, someone tell me if im wrong but im pretty confident the above is a good description [&:]



failure if your training ie 8reps and fail its latic acid failure, muscle falure.. umm been reading up on it, rest pause training [:D] been trying it, now that is a sweet


beefycol -> RE: Going to failure! (May 1 2008 2:06:54)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stephen77


quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier

Failure = when you really have to push the last rep

Past Failure = would mean when you have a spotter helping you get out a few extra reps

thats the way i see it, someone tell me if im wrong but im pretty confident the above is a good description [&:]


Failure is when you can't complete a rep. if you complete the rep you have not failed.

Plus you can have negatvie and static failure as well
negative failure - when you can't control the negative portion of the lift.
Static failure - when you can't hold a weight still.




negative failure dont happen that often pulling or pushing the weight is much harder than negative training. ie sitted calf raise, 100kg lifting the weight up is hard, then get your spotter to push down on it when lowering or holding, still hard to fail on it. (well for me) good burn
staic training, i can hold a weight for ever lol. really good when you cant push or pull it any more. just hard it there and breath to stop the latic acid


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