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First Muay Thai lesson - Apr. 29 2008 15:56:08   
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Well,

Like I have have said previously, I have done Taekwon-do for 11 years, so I am not new to martial arts, but I have always wanted to try something else, mainly for better fighting skills, as TKD doesnt really coach in the fighting area.

So, as I had heard of so many people doing Muay Thai and saying how great it is, thought I'd go to my local club and see how goes.

I enjoyed it, I think the stances/guarding positions are thing areas I have to work on, as they are completely different to what I am use to, but will stick at it, and sure I will pick it up.

Now just trying to fit it, TKD, Muay Thai, Work and Gym in 7 days lol
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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - Apr. 30 2008 12:25:18   
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enjoy the training, but watch out... thin edge of the wedge
i was soon training 6 days a week + morning cardio + work + trying to fit my gf in

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 11:05:13   
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taekwon-do has fighting skills, all martial arts do they just go aout it in different ways, or do you mean better in the ring fighting skills?

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 14:04:01   
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taekwon-do has fighting skills, all martial arts do they just go aout it in different ways, or do you mean better in the ring fighting skills?



He probably means in general, like for self defence or in the ring/cage. Muay Thai is a lot more efficient in that respect.


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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 19:08:48   
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i agree muay thai has excellent ring skills there is no doubt about that but as to self defence aspects taekwon-do can also be very good as long as the practitioner is street smart, i would say no martial art is better than any other, but certain arts suit certain people

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 19:29:25   
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We'll have to agree to disagree There was a discussion revolving around this exact same topic a while back, I just think if I saw two guys on the same level of knowledge as eachother in their specific 'Art' and the TKD competitor beat the Muay Thai competitor it's quite likely I would eat my own jeans.

I'm sure TKD does have a few self defence uses but there's a few styles I would put before TKD for self defence not just Muay Thai.

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 19:52:09   
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i mean don't get me wrong i'm not trying to argue cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion but self defence wise i am shocked you say muay thai because although it is an art they are more sport orientated but they have to be the most conditioned martial artists by far, what styles of taekwon-do have you seen? and i'm interested to hear your uptake on what arts you think are street efficient because i think it could be an interesting topic

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 3 2008 21:08:53   
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Well from what I understand there are two styles of TKD, the olympic style and the more traditional style taught at dojos, clubs or whatever. I'm not even going to touch on the Olympic style I really don't think you're going to tell me it's efficient for self defense at all, the more traditional style I actually attended one of the classes after a previous discussion about it on here and generally was not impressed. I just don't see how all the flashy kicks can be applied in a real life situation, you're more than likely to fall on your rear rather than neutralize your attacker/opponent.

Muay Thai is a lot more simpler, don't get me wrong it's not an easy art to learn but I just think it would be very efficient in real life situations especially with the ability to effectively use clinch, knees and elbows aswell as your standard punches and kicks. A lot of real life disputes will involve close quarter situations and I do not think Taekwondo would be anywhere near as efficient as Muay Thai.

As for effective self defence martial arts? In no specific order here we go:

Muay Thai
Boxing
Kickboxing
Krav Maga
Judo
Jiu Jitsu

I don't mean to offend you or anyone else it's merely an opinion, I apologize if I am received wrong. I would highly recommend you attend a Muay Thai class or an MMA striking class as a lot of Muay Thai are integrated into them, just so you can see where I am coming from.


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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 4 2008 17:25:02   
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you haven't offended me my man i value hearing other peoples opinions and its also nice to hear peoples thoughts on things.
Obviously in the taekwon-do they have flashy kicks but a sensible person would never use these on the streets no more than a thai boxer would try a flying knee etc
and yes you a right olympic taekwon-do has no self defense benefits that ui know of, i love all martial arts and would love to try muay thai i think it could help me a lot and would be interested in a bit of mma to see what its all about, do you study muay thai or mma??
i think in a study of different martial disciplines that were recorded the muay thai strikes were the strongest so i can totally agree with that and its good to see you have listed an art not many people really know of krav maga which in itself ism efficient.

i hope i haven't upset you or said anything offensive becase i was just intrigued to hear your point oif view on things not trying to upset you or anything

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 4 2008 20:08:41   
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No you haven't upset me at all I just read some of the things I had said and realized they sounded a bit boneheaded and could be interpreted as offensive, which wasn't my intention at all. To answer your question I do the following:

Kickboxing
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
MMA (Mainly a mix of Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu)

Would recommend a Muay Thai or MMA class, I think you'll find either really good.

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 14:01:47   
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thank you for your advice the only trouble i ave is the small town i am in their isn't much muay thai or mma about unfortnatelyand i work evening which also makes it harder to get to classes but i shall have a look around, thank you once agan

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 15:34:34   
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I hear you, work is a pain in the rearend for me also. Have to book days off left, right and centre to get to classes. My manager understands though which is cool.

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 17:50:53   
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thats goodif you have a manager that understands.
So have you been competing in mma then?

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 17:59:01   
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I'm training for my first fight at the minute, shooting to have my first fight in November.

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 18:00:34   
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cool, i hope all goes well for you

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 20:07:46   
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Haven,t been on for a while, s missed all the replies

I am not slagging off TKD in anyway... I I have done it for 11 years, I enjoy it and will keep at it, and please dont be confused by my original post, I know how to look after myself if I had to, I am just trying to say TKD doesn't specialise in sparring, sparring is only a part of it.

I wanted to try MT or something similar for several reason being:

Weight loss - trying to sort out diet/excerise as I like martial-arts thought MT might good to try
Strength - I am trying to get stronger, I am not weak but felt something like MT might help
Fighting skills - like I metioned previously, sparring is a small part of TKD and a part I enjoy, so want to do more and get better

well, only done a couple f lessons in MT and next one tomorrow, I admit I enjoy it so far, seems like its purely about strength and inflicting damage lol and its what I wanted, the instructor seems pretty tough and hard to please, and ensures you are knackered at the end of it

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 5 2008 22:08:38   
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quote:

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Haven,t been on for a while, s missed all the replies

I am not slagging off TKD in anyway... I I have done it for 11 years, I enjoy it and will keep at it, and please dont be confused by my original post, I know how to look after myself if I had to, I am just trying to say TKD doesn't specialise in sparring, sparring is only a part of it.

I wanted to try MT or something similar for several reason being:

Weight loss - trying to sort out diet/excerise as I like martial-arts thought MT might good to try
Strength - I am trying to get stronger, I am not weak but felt something like MT might help
Fighting skills - like I metioned previously, sparring is a small part of TKD and a part I enjoy, so want to do more and get better

well, only done a couple f lessons in MT and next one tomorrow, I admit I enjoy it so far, seems like its purely about strength and inflicting damage lol and its what I wanted, the instructor seems pretty tough and hard to please, and ensures you are knackered at the end of it


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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 6 2008 0:33:46   
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Indeed it is, I think I should get quite a bit more stamina if I continue training with him, he is a personal tranier too, so will come in handy when I can acutally afford to hire him as one lmao

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 6 2008 13:13:33   
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soundsa like you have found a good class to train at which is good and it will help with the sparring, good luck with your mt training

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RE: First Muay Thai lesson - May 6 2008 16:29:12   
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Now, I am going to sound like a fool I guess

See, I like what I have learnt so far, but cant say I like the club. I mean as in the organisation (there doesnt appear to be any), the people (only 1 person has actually been up to say hello and introduce himself), and just the general atmospehere.

I mean, I think I would learn something there, but not quickly, today was my 3rd lesson, and did some pad work, for about 10 mins with an instructor and then rest of the 2 hours, I was left on my own, doign pretty much nothing. At my TKD club, the beginners get as much time as the senior class, but looks like its not that way here :(

Like I said, look like a fool, but dont think this club is for me, I might have to try something else, as its the only MT club where I live...

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