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RE: my back development? - May 1 2008 23:18:30
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stone14
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ORIGINAL: beefycol
alright mate, again  most of it might be in you head, can you relect your back in a few mirrors so you can get a good look? or take a pic, i couldnt believe how much mine come on, like you see a bloke at the gym and you thin f he big but you stand next to him and your bigger than him.
in your head imo look at you in your avi.
and why have you posted that pic?
yeh i am bigger than the guy in the gym but his back looks more developed than mine even tho its smaller if u no what i mean, on his freame it looks fuller etc u can see them.
i posted the pic to show u what i mean, that i cant see my traps, there flat to my back
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RE: my back development? - May 1 2008 23:23:31
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How long have you had lower back problems? how long ago did you injure it?
been injured about 2month now, been to chiros and physios but since im on dole at min i cant afford to go back, its getting better very very slowly. i use ice packs a couple of times per day.
i think the pain is more muscular, my spine is fine but i still get an aching pain and bendin over and using my lower back increases the pain. but i have been doing back extensions l8ly pain free so im getting better. i wana be sure im ok b4 i start deads.
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RE: my back development? - May 2 2008 18:35:52
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i think the pain is more muscular, my spine is fine but i still get an aching pain and bendin over and using my lower back increases the pain. but i have been doing back extensions l8ly pain free so im getting better. i wana be sure im ok b4 i start deads.
Well, I admire the fact you've kept training the best you could given your circumstances. Can't be easy, sounds like a pretty bad injury there.
It might be a flexibility issue. For example; if your hamstrings are tight or you lack flexibility in the posterior chain muscle groups, it can cause lower back pain. Hyperextensions are a great alternative to Deadlifts.
Stretching is something which tends to be overlooked quite a bit. A lot of injuries come stem from flexibility issues.
Some guys get so obsessed with size, they kind of shun everything else and end up getting so big they can't even tie their own shoelaces...lol
Do you stretch regularly?
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 3:42:06
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How can you be 'bigger' than someone who has a bigger back than you, when it's the biggest bodypart and carries the greatest illusion of size.
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 13:19:47
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Stretching is something which tends to be overlooked quite a bit. A lot of injuries come stem from flexibility issues.
Some guys get so obsessed with size, they kind of shun everything else and end up getting so big they can't even tie their own shoelaces...lol
Do you stretch regularly?
yeh i think this is right, and no i didnt stretch regular but am tring to these days, my hams,quads,glutes, and hip flexers are all tight and my abs and lower back are weak imo.
i never paid any attention to this till i injured my back and found all this out
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 13:20:54
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How can you be 'bigger' than someone who has a bigger back than you, when it's the biggest bodypart and carries the greatest illusion of size.
MM
well my back will/is bigget than his but i mean his traps bulge out of his back and mine are flat to my back
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 15:23:50
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How can you be 'bigger' than someone who has a bigger back than you, when it's the biggest bodypart and carries the greatest illusion of size.
MM
I have a pretty big/wide back (not great traps, shoulders or arms though) and if i see someone who has well develpoed arm and shoulders i auotmatically think they are biger than me, when theyre proably not...
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 19:14:51
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How can you be 'bigger' than someone who has a bigger back than you, when it's the biggest bodypart and carries the greatest illusion of size.
MM
I have a pretty big/wide back (not great traps, shoulders or arms though) and if i see someone who has well develpoed arm and shoulders i auotmatically think they are biger than me, when theyre proably not...
i know what you mean quote:
if i see someone who has well develpoed arm and shoulders i auotmatically think they are biger than me, when theyre proably not...
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 20:03:44
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It could be in your head....i mean dont take that as definitve as an answer but from my experience a bodybuilders worst critic is always himself.
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 20:05:17
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It could be in your head....i mean dont take that as definitve as an answer but from my experience a bodybuilders worst critic is always himself.
yeah like you see a bloke you think god hes big but when you stand next to him in the mirror im your bigger than him
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RE: my back development? - May 3 2008 22:14:10
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^^ Beefycol...Exactly what i mean mate.
Or ..when you stand in the mirror and mentally beat up on yourself over an aspect of your physique wheteher it be to do with mass or definition etc....be it real or imagined. I do it all the time..its one of the biggest motivational tools for me personally..i critisise myself and then make firm resolve to come back looking better the next time.
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RE: my back development? - May 4 2008 20:23:08
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Most of its genetics imo, but dont let that stop you...
If you dont do so already get some deadlifts into your routine.
for traps do lots of heavy shrugs supersetted with upright rows.
if your really struggling with back try splitting it up into two days, really focus on form and sqeeze the contraction, alot of people use their biceps for back excercises try to focus the tension your back:-
Day 1- width
-wg chins
-lat pull downs
-bb rows underhand grip
-DB pull overs
Day 2- thickness
-Deadlifts
-DB rows
-Cable rows
-CG pull downs
cable rows hit lats more than anything else, not really a thickness exericse
and so do db rows - lat exercise
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RE: my back development? - May 4 2008 23:19:04
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Mad Manic
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How can you be 'bigger' than someone who has a bigger back than you, when it's the biggest bodypart and carries the greatest illusion of size.
MM
I have a pretty big/wide back (not great traps, shoulders or arms though) and if i see someone who has well develpoed arm and shoulders i auotmatically think they are biger than me, when theyre proably not...
They'd need a decent back to match up with the arms/delts otherwise it stands out that they have little back mass and thus you wouldn't think they're that big. So if that flaw doesn't stand out then they have a good back and good/great arms and delts thus they probably are 'bigger' than you.
From your pics there's nothing wrong with your arms and delts, you need to add size all over, upper body anyway.
MM
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