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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 11:21:01
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I was in Asda the other day, and noticed that meat seems stupidly expensive now. Here's some examples off the top of my head:
- Chicken breasts = 9.98 per kg
- Rump Steak = 9.87 per kg
- Sirloin Steak = 13.98 per kg!!!!!!!!!!!
- Venison = 12 per kg
In fact, the only reasonably priced source of protein was eggs. I buy my eggs in lots of 60, and it costs me...I think 3.50.
So anyway, I then worked out what the cost per 30g of protein was, and not only was cheap whey cheaper per 30g of protein, but Syntha 6 (a relatively expensive powder) was cheaper per 30g of protein, as was Pro-Pep, as was...well....most of what I could think of.
Does anyone now rely on protein powder MORE now than they used to, for budget reasons?
I did an article on this 5 years ago. So it's not a recent thing.
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In a magazine. You know, real paper, etc. I may still have a saved copy. That said food should come first because there's a bunch of macronutrients (fibre least of all) that WPC does not have.
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 15:07:22
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Speaking from someone who believed substituting real food for whey was the best course of action, real food no matter how expensive will give far greater results. And by results I don't mean extra mass, I mean as an overall benefit to your body and health. Since reducing my 220gram a day whey 'habbit' and consuming more real food I feel a lot healthier, I am stronger and am holding less water.
That said I don't buy a lot of chicken, I prefer fish such as tuna and mackeral and salmon.
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 16:59:41
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Speaking from someone who believed substituting real food for whey was the best course of action, real food no matter how expensive will give far greater results. And by results I don't mean extra mass, I mean as an overall benefit to your body and health. Since reducing my 220gram a day whey 'habbit' and consuming more real food I feel a lot healthier, I am stronger and am holding less water.
That said I don't buy a lot of chicken, I prefer fish such as tuna and mackeral and salmon.
i agree with you 100%
your well being and strength increases are probably down to the omega 3 fats found in the fish
the slower digestion speed of real food is better than whey powder anyway (in my opinion & assuming not post workout)
on saying that i use a couple MPC shakes (not whey/for convienence only) mixed with real food ie berries, oats, greens plus and yoghurt
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 17:10:00
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Speaking from someone who believed substituting real food for whey was the best course of action, real food no matter how expensive will give far greater results. And by results I don't mean extra mass, I mean as an overall benefit to your body and health. Since reducing my 220gram a day whey 'habbit' and consuming more real food I feel a lot healthier, I am stronger and am holding less water.
That said I don't buy a lot of chicken, I prefer fish such as tuna and mackeral and salmon.
that may be an allergic reaction.
i have a dvd of milos sarcev (got it when i went to his gym in LA - good dvd & gym), and he talks about how he used to develop allergic reactions to chicken, because he based all his contest diet protein around it.
without the variety in his diet, he began exhibiting allergic symptoms and reactions...so went to see the doc...who tested him, and he was having a reaction to chicken. he changed to beef, and was ok, then the same thing happened again. now he says, he uses a variety of sources, and doesn't experience any of those feelings.
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 18:39:42
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Yeah price of protein from anywhere how shot up.
Eggs were cheap, now £1.50 for 15... Ouch, wait till they do away with caged hens too!
Chicken is expensive.
Turkey mince is ok, but on a cut the fat content doesnt make it to great.
Lean mince is £2.50 for 500g which is "ok", beats most other meats it seems.
Even pollock, cheap white plain fish is expensive now.
So ive started using TVP, am trying it tonight in bolognese but hopefully it tastes good as i can use it on its own or combined with mince to make double the bolognese.
its £2 for 800g, since you add water it bulks up to around 3x that weight too! So fairly cheap, 53g protein, 30g carbs...Not to bad, but once again carbs arnt ideal sometimes when cutting.
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 19:23:31
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Yeah price of protein from anywhere how shot up.
Eggs were cheap, now £1.50 for 15... Ouch, wait till they do away with caged hens too!
Chicken is expensive.
Turkey mince is ok, but on a cut the fat content doesnt make it to great.
Lean mince is £2.50 for 500g which is "ok", beats most other meats it seems.
Even pollock, cheap white plain fish is expensive now.
So ive started using TVP, am trying it tonight in bolognese but hopefully it tastes good as i can use it on its own or combined with mince to make double the bolognese.
its £2 for 800g, since you add water it bulks up to around 3x that weight too! So fairly cheap, 53g protein, 30g carbs...Not to bad, but once again carbs arnt ideal sometimes when cutting.
what's TVP?
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 19:59:33
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Textured Vegetable Protein - Also known as(usually in shops) "SOYA MINCE".
Ive just put a spreadsheet of prices together, soya mince gives us 330kcal/47pro/33carbs at £2.60 per KG(all dry weight)
VS cheapest mince which is ASDA beef frozen stuff 258kcal/18g pro/0 carbs/19g fat at £1.82/KG
Most expensive form of protein in meats seems to be chicken.
Cheapest seems to be beef or soya mince, followed by pork>turkey mince then finanly turkey steaks and chunks per KG.
Interms of protein, best "per 100g" is soya mince DRY 52g protein and £2.60 and £3.40/KG.
Interms of meats its "Asda lean beef mince which is 22g/100gpro at 160kcals £3.38/KG
Followed by sainsburys turkey thats 21.6g/pro and 111kcal by priced at £6.99/KG.
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 1 2008 22:36:24
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I am working as a fundmental and financial advisor for all kind of investors ,and recently all the reports and the advising for the investors are to be directed in the food sectors ....food is really getting more and more expensive all over the world euorupe ,america ,middle east .....
A food shortage is resurfacing these days and prices are expected to keep on going up more for the next comming 2 years .....
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 5 2008 13:15:43
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interesting topic.
I think using whey compared to food is pointless, A slower acting protien like casien or milk protien concentrate would be better IMO.
I have milk, with milk protien, egg protien and some toast in the morning for a meal replacement. Im guessing I get about 50+ grams of protien from that (including the bread)
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 6 2008 9:24:52
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interesting topic.
I think using whey compared to food is pointless, A slower acting protien like casien or milk protien concentrate would be better IMO.
I have milk, with milk protien, egg protien and some toast in the morning for a meal replacement. Im guessing I get about 50+ grams of protien from that (including the bread)
get rid of the milk buddy, full of sugar and not needed. Mix with water, all the way
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 7 2008 3:27:28
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interesting topic.
I think using whey compared to food is pointless, A slower acting protien like casien or milk protien concentrate would be better IMO.
I have milk, with milk protien, egg protien and some toast in the morning for a meal replacement. Im guessing I get about 50+ grams of protien from that (including the bread)
get rid of the milk buddy, full of sugar and not needed. Mix with water, all the way
not even for bulking?
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 7 2008 9:53:57
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Milk is for babies, when you grow you should drink beer 
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RE: Protein Powders vs. Chicken - May 7 2008 9:55:44
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Whey and beer...mmmm.
Anyway, Morrisons were doing a deal, 800g of chicken drumsticks for £1.75.
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