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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:29:46
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Crunch
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Fair play to you Pete, everyones different.
Some people enjoy spirited driving, some people enjoy skiing, some enjoy skydiving.
If there was a law for walking speed i would probably stick to that. 
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:30:07
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
People who look pay more attention to the speedo and not where they're going are more likely to have an accident in the first place, and react later (by the time they've looked up again at the child who's just stepped in front of them).
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:31:54
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Skrewdriver
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
By the way, apart from the odd safe blat, i'm a pretty dosile and slow driver 95% of the time
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:32:52
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
People who look pay more attention to the speedo and not where they're going are more likely to have an accident in the first place, and react later (by the time they've looked up again at the child who's just stepped in front of them).
Didn't realize that you had done so much research. As one of those people I can assure you that this is complete bollox. I know fast I am going, the occasional glance at the speedo is enough.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:36:21
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
People who look pay more attention to the speedo and not where they're going are more likely to have an accident in the first place, and react later (by the time they've looked up again at the child who's just stepped in front of them).
Didn't realize that you had done so much research. As one of those people I can assure you that this is complete bollox. I know fast I am going, the occasional glance at the speedo is enough.
Given that most of the poplulation of drivers reguarly speed (we're talking millions of people here) it's amazing that there's any children or cute little kittens still alive.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:41:27
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Dan Nukem
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Do you?
Yes,
How often? What kind of roads?
on every journey at some stage if it involves travelling on dual carraigeways, national roads etc.
Have you been caught?
About 4 years ago (before i ever actually started speeding on every journey).
Those 2 points are gone off my license now
On my way to work, the main danger is people driving excessively slow - the elderly etc., people come round a bend and have to break hard.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:46:51
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1st one i was doing 55 in a 50
harsh!
I thought that too!!
The guideline issued by the Association of Chief Police Officers is not to prosecute unless you are going at 10% plus 2mph over the posted speed limit. In the case of a 50mph limit that would be 57mph, so you could have appealled against that.
There are tables which show the different speed limits.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:47:09
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
People who look pay more attention to the speedo and not where they're going are more likely to have an accident in the first place, and react later (by the time they've looked up again at the child who's just stepped in front of them).
Didn't realize that you had done so much research. As one of those people I can assure you that this is complete bollox. I know fast I am going, the occasional glance at the speedo is enough.
Given that most of the poplulation of drivers reguarly speed (we're talking millions of people here) it's amazing that there's any children or cute little kittens still alive.
alot of people do die due to speeding cars,
But then again having a car licence hardly makes one a professional driver does it.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 1 2008 23:49:10
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not on the road atm,but yeah,i love it.
working in/being around the car trade its pretty much a given that anything with a throttle needs ragging.
never been caught,i dont know how,but thats how its worked out.
all kinds of roads,but mainly quiet ones and carriage/m/ways.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 0:03:04
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Skrewdriver
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they can tell if they're driving safely without looking at the speedo.
Right up intil the moment when the accident happens and then how much extra damage does that excessive speed cause ?
People who look pay more attention to the speedo and not where they're going are more likely to have an accident in the first place, and react later (by the time they've looked up again at the child who's just stepped in front of them).
Didn't realize that you had done so much research. As one of those people I can assure you that this is complete bollox. I know fast I am going, the occasional glance at the speedo is enough.
Given that most of the poplulation of drivers reguarly speed (we're talking millions of people here) it's amazing that there's any children or cute little kittens still alive.
alot of people do die due to speeding cars,
But then again having a car licence hardly makes one a professional driver does it.
Yes I accept that.
What I really object to is the emphasis which is put on speeding nowadays.
I hardly EVER see a Police car on the streets nowadays. We need less cameras and more Police presence IMO.
The roads cannot be Policed by Gatsos alone (which encourage even worse driving afaic (speed, slam on brakes, speed, slam on brakes).
Why isn't the same emphasis placed on bad drivers? Tailgaters? Dangerous driving? Middle lane hoggers(!)? Road rage? Driving without due care and attention etc etc?
I think the issue of speed is over-done to hide the stealth tax it yeilds. Much like other stealth taxes wrapped up in eco-friendlyness.
edited to spell "emphasis" correctly! Bl00dy hell, had to look that one up, I was really stumped for a moment 
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 0:13:29
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I speed, most of the time. On the bike all of the time. Never with kids in the car.
Normal roads + plus motorways, I take it slower on country roads.
I have been caught at 5am on the way to work and been caught speeding up to make it through a light... let off for those.
I have got 3 points for speeding on those average speed cameras...
was a dual carrgway that swaped from double to single lanes more than once and I should have dropped to 60... the speed on the ticket was 70mph, I was actually trying to stay at 70mph, I bet lots of people get caught on that road.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 7:01:39
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What I really object to is the emphasis which is put on speeding nowadays.
Could it not be possible the emphasis is there because so many people do it. You really can't turn a blind eye to a law being broken by 90% of drivers.
If 90% obeyed the speed limits they could and possibly would turn their attentions elsewhere
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 7:31:29
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I do have advanced driving qualifications so I`m not some nimrod who thinks they are a good driver because they can put their foot down.
One could argue that this being the case, you of all people should know better. You may, because of your skills be less likely to have an accident, but the consequenses of that greater speed, should you have one, are the same.
The dead child might have been injured, the injured one might have been scratched, the scratched one might have been missed.
The big difference Pete is knowing when and where it is safe to do so mate, there`s alot more to advanced driving than people realise, as per my previous comment, road surface, weather conditions and congestion(including pedestrians) have to allow it, if you took a course Pete you`d understand what it`s about ( don`t mean that to sound condescending either) .
I think my driving record speaks for itself in any case, in over twenty years not a blameworthy accident, not a speeding ticket or traffic offence ever.
Edit, for your perusal Pete http://www.hpc.org.uk/standards/entry4.htm , also my qualifications extend beyond this .
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 7:39:10
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I hold my hand up and confess to speeding every day when I'm at work. The increased pressure at work to get the jobs done (the jobs HAVE to be completed) means I am rushing around like an idiot most of the time. If I have less to do, I tend to take it a little easier.
Work pressure should not be an excuse, unfortunatey, I am faced with it just about every day!
EDIT: I would like to add, that I recently got done for speeding - fixed camera pointing downhill. I usually drop down a gear and I'm generally safe from getting caught. However, I had just received an emergency job to install oxygen into a patients home - we have to get to the job asap if its an emergency. I was more concerned with find the place and forgot about the camera. With 3 1/2 ton of van + stock, the weight just run it over the limit going downhill away from the camera!
They have a term for getting caught in such circumstances "Noble Causes" and said with a grin, 'that'll be £60 please'.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 7:41:00
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i travel at 60mph on the motorway to save fuel and residential areas in portsmouth are now 20mph with sneaky cops so i dont take thr risk
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 8:38:05
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Yes, but it depends on the roads.
On a main road that's, say, a 40mph limit I'll probably be a bit over that; on a residential street I'd stick to the limit; and on the motorway I'll be quite a lot over if it's safe to be.
Have a clean licence but only because I did one of those speed awareness courses instead of getting points. Only got caught the once though, and I was 6mph over the limit on a frigging big dual carriageway (didn't know the area so didn't know there was a static camera there or I'd have slowed down!). 
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 8:51:32
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What I really object to is the emphasis which is put on speeding nowadays.
Could it not be possible the emphasis is there because so many people do it. You really can't turn a blind eye to a law being broken by 90% of drivers.
If 90% obeyed the speed limits they could and possibly would turn their attentions elsewhere
But Pete, so many people are also driving without insurance, tax, even a license. So many more people drive like complete idiots (without neccesarily speeding). Some Police forces have stated that if they went out and charged people driving without insurance etc they wouldn't have time to do ANYTHING else.
Further, if speeding is terrible, why do I witness the Police themselves reguarly speeding (and i'm talking about 20%+ over the limit without blues and twos).
I'm not saying that speeding is acceptable, i'm saying it's over emphasised to justify the revenue it creates.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 9:09:56
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I used to, and I'd do it constantly cos always had quick/fast cars. Since I got the BMW I don't really bother now.
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 9:13:55
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an "advanced driving qualification" dosent mean crap if you hit a child. alot of speed limits seem to be to protect pedestrians and rightly so
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RE: Do you speed? - May 2 2008 9:14:19
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Yes, but it depends on the roads.
On a main road that's, say, a 40mph limit I'll probably be a bit over that; on a residential street I'd stick to the limit; and on the motorway I'll be quite a lot over if it's safe to be.
Have a clean licence but only because I did one of those speed awareness courses instead of getting points. Only got caught the once though, and I was 6mph over the limit on a frigging big dual carriageway (didn't know the area so didn't know there was a static camera there or I'd have slowed down!).
Another one of those bloody things i hate bout our driving system
Some people have the option of to take the 3 points and a £60 Fine or go on a speed awareness and slow down course!
How come i didnt get that option!! People are going to take the course as you dont get 3 points or a fine.
And even sometimes i was watching Rage wars i think it was on Sky three and some guy was caught Undertaking, speeding and tailgating on the motorway, the police pulled him over and all they gave him was a warning otherwise he cud of lost his job.
So much inconsitensy!!
Rant over
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