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Belt? - May 1 2008 22:54:26   
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Is it a good idea for me to be getting a belt for mil pressing? As I am excpecting to be military pressing 90kg+ in a few weeks and do them on the same day as deads and feel my lower back may be under too much strain?


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RE: Belt? - May 1 2008 23:03:34   
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See how you fare without it.

It's more your core in general that will be under strain than just your lower back.

If you were to work the weight up carefully then theres no reason your core won't adapt to the requirements.

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RE: Belt? - May 1 2008 23:21:52   
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I've been using a weight belt for so long that the other day, I found out that I'm not as strong
as I thought I was unless I wear the belt. It's more of 'crutch" if anything! But it does have its place sometime.

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RE: Belt? - May 2 2008 0:13:41   
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ok, think I might leave it for a bit see how I get on. Don't want to become dependant on one really.

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RE: Belt? - May 2 2008 9:55:02   
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its a tool, use it

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RE: Belt? - May 2 2008 11:26:20   
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.... only when the situation calls for it.

You'd be much better served learning to control you mid section properly and pressing properly. With the military press there shouldn't be much lean through the lumbar and lower thoracic spine anyway.

When you use a belt remember you have to know HOW to use it properly - it's not just a case of putting it on and you're good to go. You also have to keep in mind that much of the stress that people tent to experience doing push or military press (wrongly) occurs above where the belt would actually go.

I'm not just wittering on, I push over 90 (for very few reps!) at 82kg BW and have NEVER used a belt to do this.



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RE: Belt? - May 2 2008 14:14:13   
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ORIGINAL: drewsky

.... only when the situation calls for it.

You'd be much better served learning to control you mid section properly and pressing properly. With the military press there shouldn't be much lean through the lumbar and lower thoracic spine anyway.



This is definitely something you should be aware of. In the past I've found myself leaning back a bit too far than is probably good for me, in order to get the chest involved or get better leverage. When doing this I usually feel something in the lower back the next day

One way of helping prevent this tendency IME is to brace the abs and squeeze the glutes hard. Also, looking *ahead* rather than *up* helps keep the torso in the correct position

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RE: Belt? - May 4 2008 18:46:04   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Raskolnikov


quote:

ORIGINAL: drewsky

.... only when the situation calls for it.

You'd be much better served learning to control you mid section properly and pressing properly. With the military press there shouldn't be much lean through the lumbar and lower thoracic spine anyway.



This is definitely something you should be aware of. In the past I've found myself leaning back a bit too far than is probably good for me, in order to get the chest involved or get better leverage. When doing this I usually feel something in the lower back the next day

One way of helping prevent this tendency IME is to brace the abs and squeeze the glutes hard. Also, looking *ahead* rather than *up* helps keep the torso in the correct position


Thanks for the tips.

I might try filming a set so I can check my form and see if I am bending back to much.


edit: looking at some form videos it seems I may be almost doing a push press deffinatley going to film next sessions now

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Squat - 180kgx2
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