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going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:02:03
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how do i go about going from 4000 cal to 2000 cal? do i taper down or just drop them??
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:05:34
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how do i go about going from 4000 cal to 2000 cal? do i taper down or just drop them??
Something i surely wouldn't do...
Reduce calories from same meals slightly and/or increase cardio
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:12:23
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ok, so stick with what i'm eating just say have smaller portions or lower the carbs?
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:12:35
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Ive wondered this many times, i dont actually see what metabolic problems would arise from suddenly dropping them.
Mental/hunger problems perhaps as the volume of food would be reduces dramatically, be interesting to see if anyone has any valid metabolic/hormone reasons.
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:16:14
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ok, i am abigt worried about say going from eating 150g rice and 200g chicken in one sitting to eating 100g chicken and a oat cake!!!! lol
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:34:02
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Well i dont think your bodys is going to say "OMG WERE GETTING LESS FOOD, EVERY HEAD TO THE BUNKER!".
You may feel like your now on a pigeons diet, but your metabolism would slow if you went from 4000 to 2000 anyway, i think by dropping so suddenly your body will take a while to adapt still and you'll see the same weight loss. I dont think it will have any impact of muscle loss or anything else either.
So i really dont see a problem, lets see what the others think though.
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 17:38:17
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haha, i was actually thinking that the muscle would disolve!!
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 19:08:23
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Mate i lost muscle when i reduced calories and carbs too low. It is not needed at the initial stages of a cut!!
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 19:41:22
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i hear ya. i'll up them to 2500 then lower slowly if i need too.
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 3 2008 20:26:47
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I'd aim for a 500 cal reduction taken evenly from meals during the day.
That with some cardio added would = 1-2lb weight loss per week.
Trust me on this mate, go careful as muscle loss is frustrating
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 4 2008 4:27:51
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bulking diet=
12.00 am 6 whole eggs, scrambled in olive oil, to oatmeal bread toast pro 35, carbs 30g. fat 20
2 efa fish cap, 1g vit c, multi vit and eca (T5)
3:00 300g salmon 200g rice (uncooked weight) green beens. pro 65g carbs 180g fat 20
415 whey water, glucose powder. pro 40, carbs 90
TRAIN
5:30 whey in wate, glucose powder 4 sesame seed rice cakes, pro 40g carbs 110g
6:30 150g chicken, 200g rice, 80G green beens pro 30g, carbs 150
9:30 150g chicken wrap 3 rice cakes. pro 30g, 50g carbs
12:30 150g chicken wrap, 3 rice cakes apple and banana pro 30g 50 carbs
3:30 cottage cheese 5 rice cakes 45g pro 40 carbs
protein= 315
carbs= 690!!!
4600 approx cals
this was todays diet cutting=
330pm protein shake 45g protein
4pm 2 granary bread with 4 eggs (1 whole) carbs 15g, 25g protein
small glass of milk and green tea
2 epa fish oil caps
7pm 150g mackeral, 30g protein, 35g carbs
40g basmati rice
veg
10pm 150g chicken breast, 2 oat cakes 45g protein, 20g carbs
12pm 150g chicken breast 45g protein, 30g carbs
3 oat cakes
2am 100g tuna (with low cal sauce) in seeded wrap 25g protein, 35g carbs
4am 200g cottage cheese. 25g protein
protein =240g protein
carbs= 135
fats, are abit low apart from the epa fish oil in morning and the oat cakes are olive oil enriched, and olive oil butter on the bread in the am.
i will be adding some linseed in once iv'e been to the shops.
how does that look bud?
< Message edited by get_bigger -- May 4 2008 4:30:56 >
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 4 2008 15:11:07
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anybody got any views on this please??
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 4 2008 16:14:40
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Not sure but I definately think you should taper rather than drop hugely. Reduce carb portion sizes slightly in most meals away from training, and simply monitor and adjust accordingly!
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RE: going from bulking to cutting. - May 4 2008 16:24:21
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ok well i didnt train yesterday and today im not either and th diet is that same, i have uped the carbs on a few meals but tapering would be a waste of time coz of the high level of carbs before i would still be putting fat on ie 600, 550, 500 its still alot of carbs
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