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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 10:29:59
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i think the second guy 100% for me
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Take two guys of about the same age.
The first guy smokes 40 a day and drinks at least 8 pints, four nights a week. However, he does a cardio workout of about forty minutes each day and is quite fussy about what he eats, ie: no junk food or much saturated fat. He is also a perfectly healthy weight for his height and has a very low bodyfat count.
The second guy doesn't drink or smoke at all. However, he gets no exercise whatsoever and eats nothing but crap ie: fry up every morning and doner kebab/burger/pizza/fried chicken for dinner every night. Because of this he is approximately 3 stone overweight.
These descriptions are of two guys I know. Considering that neither of these guys have any history of serious illness in their families, who do you think will die first?
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 14:47:03
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For some reasons I'd say the secon guy as well. At least the first guy does some form of active excercise. What kind of job do they have? Manual or office based?
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You're actually trying to cause potentially fatal accidents, because you don't like horses?
That is rather odd
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 14:48:23
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No way to tell.
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 16:03:40
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Living near a busy road would also have an effect according to recent Environmental health tests conducted near me.
Apparently walking twenty minutes down the A6 during rush hour was the equivilant of smoking 10 Benson and Hedges( for related intakes).
Holy...
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 16:16:21
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Living near a busy road would also have an effect according to recent Environmental health tests conducted near me.
Apparently walking twenty minutes down the A6 during rush hour was the equivilant of smoking 10 Benson and Hedges( for related intakes).
These sorts of comparison are a bit specious. OK, both road pollution and smoking mean you're breathing carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, benzene and so on, which are all of course bad for you, but the transit of these chemicals into your lungs is far more powerful with smoking.
One study found that if you live in a high-traffic pollution area for 21-30 years, your risk of developing lung cancer is increased by an estimated 44%.
Compare this with studies of smoking and lung cancer risk: smoking 10-15 cigarettes a day increases your risk of developing lung cancer by an estimated 1600% and 25 a day or more by about 3400%.
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 16:21:57
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For some reasons I'd say the secon guy as well. At least the first guy does some form of active excercise. What kind of job do they have? Manual or office based?
Both sit on their arses for most of their working day. But at least the first guy spends most of his lunch break on the treadmill at a gym nearby, the second guy would break into a cold sweat at the very thought of doing any kind of exercise.
What's strange is that when the first guy has done his 40 - 45 minute workout, he'll have a shower and then immediately go outside and light up a cigarette. 
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 16:37:08
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Haha  does seem to rather defeat the point doesn't it
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You're actually trying to cause potentially fatal accidents, because you don't like horses?
That is rather odd
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 20:50:33
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Compare this with studies of smoking and lung cancer risk: smoking 10-15 cigarettes a day increases your risk of developing lung cancer by an estimated 1600% and 25 a day or more by about 3400%.
If you carry on smoking into your 70s yes. If person A quits in middle age his risk will be slashed dramatically.
IIRC ~20 years of smoking <15 cigarettes a day doesn't do much permanent damage.
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 21:08:25
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Living near a busy road would also have an effect according to recent Environmental health tests conducted near me.
Apparently walking twenty minutes down the A6 during rush hour was the equivilant of smoking 10 Benson and Hedges( for related intakes).
These sorts of comparison are a bit specious. OK, both road pollution and smoking mean you're breathing carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, benzene and so on, which are all of course bad for you, but the transit of these chemicals into your lungs is far more powerful with smoking.
One study found that if you live in a high-traffic pollution area for 21-30 years, your risk of developing lung cancer is increased by an estimated 44%.
Compare this with studies of smoking and lung cancer risk: smoking 10-15 cigarettes a day increases your risk of developing lung cancer by an estimated 1600% and 25 a day or more by about 3400%.
Not trying to claim I`m any authority here John, just stating what I read mate which is one of the reasons I put `for related intakes` ie common elements, for me it makes little difference if that`s the case smoking 30 odd a day but surely it must bother people who are more conscious of what they breath in, in any case I just wanted to show the possible element of danger for the non-smoker  .
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RE: Who'll die first? - May 4 2008 21:18:39
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Living near a busy road would also have an effect according to recent Environmental health tests conducted near me.
Apparently walking twenty minutes down the A6 during rush hour was the equivilant of smoking 10 Benson and Hedges( for related intakes).
Having said that, a Doctor I know told me if he was to offer one piece of advice to anyone to aid good health, far and away it would be to not smoke.
im glad you put this up mate tbh,i havent heard this before and i walk the kids to school every day along a busy road,(bad traffic etc etc) ill now look into this in more detail.thanks.
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