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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 16:45:16
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Medusa
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So med, if its not in agreement with you, its a caveman stance?
Thats a bit insulting IMO for people who don't agree with you. Surely THEIR opinion is just as important as yours? Thats the thing about opinions you see, they can never be subjective!
in my opinion the sexual double standard amounts to hypocrisy, I regard it as a primative way of thinking.
( you surely mean that opinions are always subjective?)
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 19:13:58
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But why do women want no strings sex?
Men have an organ that gets hard when aroused, and testicles that need to empty themselves regularly. This is why men need no strings sex.
No doubt this description will offend you also, but don't blame me blame mother nature. Of course women enjoy sex, but women do not have the same physical needs that men do, so why do some of them try to act like men when they are simply wired differently?
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 19:16:05
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 19:17:37
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 19:37:23
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in my opinion the sexual double standard amounts to hypocrisy, I regard it as a primative way of thinking.
( you surely mean that opinions are always subjective?)
You'll no more get rid of this attitude than stop women being attracted to men with money (how disgustingly shallow!) These are things that are hardwired into us by evolution. I can agree with you intellectually but still can't help the fact that I wouldn't want to marry a promiscuous woman. Have sex with, yes, but not marry.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 19:52:20
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can't help the fact that I wouldn't want to marry a promiscuous woman. Have sex with, yes, but not marry.
why? what does it matter?
everyone i know with that attitude has it becuase they arent very confident with regards to sex and their performance, everyone that i know who is confident about things like that doesnt care how many people their partner has been with
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 20:05:29
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why? what does it matter?
Because a promiscuous woman is more likely to cheat on you compared to a woman who needs an emotional attachment and thus would not be tempted to sleep with men she doesn't know i.e. sex would be a special thing just between her and me.
Of course I'm not saying a promiscuous woman can't be faithful, but you would feel safer with a woman who isn't.
Why do I feel this way? Because I'm a product of evolution, and by having an aversion to promiscuous women I am less likely to be cuckolded i.e.end up investing my resources in a baby which isn't mine.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 20:23:49
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Because a promiscuous woman is more likely to cheat on you compared to a woman who needs an emotional attachment and thus would not be tempted to sleep with men she doesn't know i.e. sex would be a special thing just between her and me.
Of course I'm not saying a promiscuous woman can't be faithful, but you would feel safer with a woman who isn't.
Why do I feel this way? Because I'm a product of evolution, and by having an aversion to promiscuous women I am less likely to be cuckolded i.e.end up investing my resources in a baby which isn't mine.
i dont agree with that view, promiscuity is completely different to fidelity. Women that have had a good few partners are less likely to cheat in my mind, they have lived, been there and bought the t-shirt and they know what keeps them happy, if your it then they have no need.
just because a woman hasnt had many partners doesnt mean she wont cheat. my mates girlfriend just left him, they were ment to be getting married this year, she had only had 2 partners in her life, cheated on him, and left saying she wants to live a bit more and find out what shes missed out on
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 20:33:27
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I'm not saying it's a foolproof law i.e.promiscuity always equals infidelity. But I would be surprised if you couldn't agree that GENERALLY promiscuous women will be more likely to be unfaithful.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 20:55:43
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I'm not saying it's a foolproof law i.e.promiscuity always equals infidelity. But I would be surprised if you couldn't agree that GENERALLY promiscuous women will be more likely to be unfaithful.
generally, id say faithfull people are faithfull, and those who arent are more likely to cheat again.
i wouldnt get involved with a woman i knew had cheated on a partner, how many partners she has had doesnt worry me
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 20:56:22
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I'm not saying it's a foolproof law i.e.promiscuity always equals infidelity. But I would be surprised if you couldn't agree that GENERALLY promiscuous women will be more likely to be unfaithful.
I dont agree that at all - I think thats a man over thinking 
Daz hit the nail on the head - most of the girlies in my group who have been promiscuous have actually been the ones who slipped into family life the easiest as they know they are onto a good thing when they have found it - most of them have also not jumped into marriage etc and I would be suprised if any of them got divorced.
On the other hand - those who have been virginal struggle to now keep their knickers up and have married the wrong men.....I think its to do with them feeling more sexually confiedent and now need to go explore that area....
Sexual behaviour is actually one of the easy areas to mentally work out imho!!!
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 21:23:49
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I'm not saying it's a foolproof law i.e.promiscuity always equals infidelity. But I would be surprised if you couldn't agree that GENERALLY promiscuous women will be more likely to be unfaithful.
I dont agree that at all - I think thats a man over thinking
Daz hit the nail on the head - most of the girlies in my group who have been promiscuous have actually been the ones who slipped into family life the easiest as they know they are onto a good thing when they have found it - most of them have also not jumped into marriage etc and I would be suprised if any of them got divorced.
On the other hand - those who have been virginal struggle to now keep their knickers up and have married the wrong men.....I think its to do with them feeling more sexually confiedent and now need to go explore that area....
Sexual behaviour is actually one of the easy areas to mentally work out imho!!!
But your MT female opinion is not followed by the rest of the UK IMO 
Speaking to a woman in work the other day and she's in her early 30s the other day and she was going on about cheating and she said she'd never done that. But then later on in the convo she said she'd be happy to get off with someone if seeing someone else as thats a bit of fun when drunk! 
I've found that PEOPLE in general when they are promiscous are generally the people who stray...
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 23:42:02
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jango- women dont have physical needs for sex and gratification??? WTF? are you a teenage boy that has never slept with a woman, because i can tell you that there are as many women out there with a high sex drive and a need for gratification as there are men. just as there are men who arent remotely interested in sex.
Where are these women?
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 23:46:29
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You'll no more get rid of this attitude than stop women being attracted to men with money (how disgustingly shallow!) These are things that are hardwired into us by evolution. I can agree with you intellectually but still can't help the fact that I wouldn't want to marry a promiscuous woman. Have sex with, yes, but not marry.
Cheeky Chappie I'm not so sure, when it comes to human behavior much of what we believe to be hardwired is a cultural construct, we've internalised it so well that we think it's natural. Of course nothing can really be proved either way.
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It seems to me that it is down to a psychological need for attention and/or affection, rather than any need to have instant sexual gratification in the way that men want.
can you explain why there is a market for vibrators?
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 5 2008 23:47:48
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But your MT female opinion is not followed by the rest of the UK IMO
my goodness, how did you find time to survey the whole of the UK!
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 6 2008 12:52:23
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Yup, has caused me a lot of probs to be honest. And altho I have cheated in the past, its not something I like doing and have rarely done. TBH it can make me act like a spoiled brat. Get massively frustrated when I can't get any. And when on test/tren/prov even when i've just got my oats, i'm thinking of the next time. Frustrating!
Sounds similar to me. I'm using the same meds.
Have not cheated on any partner.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 6 2008 13:00:13
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Because a promiscuous woman is more likely to cheat on you compared to a woman who needs an emotional attachment and thus would not be tempted to sleep with men she doesn't know i.e. sex would be a special thing just between her and me.
Of course I'm not saying a promiscuous woman can't be faithful, but you would feel safer with a woman who isn't.
Why do I feel this way? Because I'm a product of evolution, and by having an aversion to promiscuous women I am less likely to be cuckolded i.e.end up investing my resources in a baby which isn't mine.
i dont agree with that view, promiscuity is completely different to fidelity. Women that have had a good few partners are less likely to cheat in my mind, they have lived, been there and bought the t-shirt and they know what keeps them happy, if your it then they have no need.
just because a woman hasnt had many partners doesnt mean she wont cheat. my mates girlfriend just left him, they were ment to be getting married this year, she had only had 2 partners in her life, cheated on him, and left saying she wants to live a bit more and find out what shes missed out on
I agree with both of those points.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 6 2008 13:04:26
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But your MT female opinion is not followed by the rest of the UK IMO
my goodness, how did you find time to survey the whole of the UK!
I know, I’ve been very very busy med.
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RE: Do you think too much? - May 6 2008 13:18:28
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Is it worse to think too much, than to not think enough?
I think far too much, often about ridiculous things.
I have spent much of the last hour musing on what makes some people in financial trouble decide to prostitute themselves, when others don't.
I still haven't figured it out.
yes it is worse, sometimes ignorance is bliss.
i am very analytical and tend to analyse as to what people's real intentions are, since learning about basic psychology,body language and transactional analysis it has worsened things rather than cleared them up.
I know when someone is lying and can figure out their motives quite easily and rather than just leaving at that... my brain carries on working on from that.
Watching people talk to each other however is facinating at how they lie and try and manipulate others during their conversation. Its almost like watching a mini drama...
There is no off switch however and sometimes when your involved in a conversation with a loved one and see the tells its times like that you wished you could ignore them.
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