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Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 15:35:31
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pimmo2000
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Hi all,
Been working out for a while now with basically no results. A bloke I work with has been really helpful recently and given me a work out to do to build size.
I'm hoping someone here can either confirm its a good idea or suggest improvements.
Diet in no real order
Daily
Protein shake with milk
Pint of milk
Chicken breast
Pasta
Chicken breast
Tin Tuna
Dinner - roast etc - pasta whatevers there
Protein shake with milk.
Work out.. twice a week
Monday
Dead lifts
Leg press
Weighted crunches
tow lift is it.. the one where you lift something that looks like this ----I-- legs on either side.. like rows.
Friday
Shoulder press
Hammer shoulder press (i think its called)
rows
hands together pull downs
bench
and crunches again
Feels like I'm not doing enough ... any tips or help ? Please
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 15:41:45
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Integra
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Diet in no real order
Give it some real order mate.
Plenty of tried and tested workouts at the top of the routines section.
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 15:50:41
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just jake
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I dont think you are doing enough tbh mate. Maybe look at going to the gym more often and looking up a routine off this site
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_854463/tm.htm
plently of routines on there. shout if you need some help with it.
post up your stats, weight, age, back ground etc
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 16:41:31
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pimmo2000
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Hi guys, thanks for the replies..
My diet it in no order because I dont eat it in any order. Just try to space it 2 hours between. My working lift means I have to fit things in.
I agree with the amount of gym time I have but he is convinced if I go more it will only make me smaller ..
Its really eating at me ....
I've been on forums like this before and the mixed results and suggestions are too much for me to break down.
I'm trying guys I really am...
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 18:01:32
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just jake
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agree with the amount of gym time I have but he is convinced if I go more it will only make me smaller ..
You need to slap this guy! That is the most ridiculas thing I have ever heard!
When you train you are putting yor body under stress and pushing your muscles. If you train 2 x a week then it would not be enough to push all your muscles sifficiantly, to make them grow. How can you expect to work all muscle groups in just 2 day training?
You need to have a look at how many days you can train and let us know. Then we can put together a routine based on your needs.
When you train 2 x a week and this guy thinks you will get smaller, why is this? You will not get smaller, if your diet is good you will injest the correct food to provide your body with the energy it needs to train / recover.
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 18:07:57
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Don't lose heart mate
Have a read of these articles, they should hopefully explain a lot of things:
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-beginners-guide.aspx
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-beginners-first-stop.aspx
As for going to the gym more making you smaller... well you can overdo it, but going more than twice a week won't make you shrink. I train four times per week and do quite well from it
It depends how much time you can spare. You can train twice a week if you wish, but I wouldn't use the routine your mate's given you
FWIW, I think three times a week is ample. Obviously your diet has to be in order so that you can make the most of it. Should be well worth spending some time reading and posting in the diet and nutrition sub-forums... lots of knowldegeable people there who should be able to give you pointers
I wish you all the best 
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 18:11:17
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just jake
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I train 4 or 5 times a week. Each workout varies in intensity.
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 19:36:38
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pimmo2000
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Hi guys again thanks for the replies ... its starting to get me down a bit .. not growing at all... my strength is increasing but that's all.
I work random shifts but have weights and a bench at home too .. I can work out (and am willing to) as many times as needed.. I want to get big !
I'm 5"11 and weight 12 stone .. gone up from 11.4 since I started eating more .. try to have 5 -7 small meals a day..
I get up too early for breakfast
I.e today
6:25am Protein shake
8am Pint of milk
9am chicken breast
11am banana
12pm Tin of tuna with sweet corn and mao
2pm Chicken breast and pasta
4pm banana
big gap as I come home from work
Will have another protein shake with milk before bed
now
One minute cook pasta with olive oil and mixed hurbs with cheese on top
Basically my daily diet ! sometimes not in that order depends on how long I have at each 2 hour gap.
anything I need to include ?
< Message edited by pimmo2000 -- May 5 2008 19:37:21 >
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 20:32:24
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just jake
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I.e today
6:25am Protein shake
8am Pint of milk
9am chicken breast
11am banana
12pm Tin of tuna with sweet corn and mao
2pm Chicken breast and pasta
4pm banana
big gap as I come home from work
Will have another protein shake with milk before bed
now
One minute cook pasta with olive oil and mixed hurbs with cheese on top
It isnt the worst I have seen. I am no expert on diet but I can give some guidance on when to eat.
6:25am
Whey in milk (protein shake)
natural oats or natural yoghurt
bananna
9.00am
chicken bread sandwich on whole meal bread - (maybe use some low fat honey mustard dessing
Lunch Time
Sweet Potatoe + Tuna or Chicken Bread and whole grain pasta
Mid afternoon snack
Maybe go for a little pit of natural yoghurt with fruit and nuts
Post Training
Whey in milk + 1 small piece of fruit
dinner time
maybe you could put together a stew. try and have a low fat and reletivly low carb meal at this time as you are not going to expend any energy again until the next day.
It might sound f'ing stupid but you need to keep eating to loose weight. 5 - 6 meals a day. You have to constantly feed your body with food forit to take nurishment evenly throughout the day. The reason you maybe have excess fat at he moment is over time you may have eaten the wrong types of food at the wrong time. For example - If you eat carbs and do not do any exercise to burn the energy off, it will be eventualy converted in fat and stored in your body. You ca alter this by just tweaking your diet around you training.
I would definatly stick with it mate. You have all the tools and people you need on this site so use them!
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 5 2008 20:42:01
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just jake
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Sorry mate I have been following to posts and have got yours mixed up with somebody elses.
Add another shake to the meal plan I just typed. There is still alot to improve on the meal plan I just typed but it would be a good starting point until you ease into it all.
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 6 2008 2:10:35
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That routine doent look very good to me. As already mentioned check the routine forum for ideas on a 3 or 4 day split. Something like chest/tris, back/bi's, legs, shoulders is a good a place as any to start.
What do you mean, you get up too early for breakfast? You really cant be skipping breakfast when your trying to bulk (or cut for that matter). And do you only have carbs with one meal??!
Also have a read through the articles in the diet forum. I think there's an example bulking diet in there somewhere. That should give you more of an idea of what to eat and when. Just quickly looking at yours, your definately not eating enough.
And dont let it get you down. It takes time to grow. Get your training, diet and rest sorted then just stick with it and gains will come. 
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RE: Work out Concerns - May 6 2008 7:43:52
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I wouldnt say I skip breakfast .. today I've had a protein shake when I woke up and then a chicken butty and a pint of milk an hour later, when I got to work.
I'll give the other forums a read over the weekend and thank you all again for your replies !!
I WILL BE BIG :)
Its not a question of if but when ..
thanks
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