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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 13 2008 23:47:56
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Icemansoldier
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not fat, more like lack of muscle.
you pump iron but thats not the full story for building up im afraid.
you got any records of training, come to think of it? weights lifted, when, reps, what is it now etc.
Yeah ive recorded since december
cant seem to find em.
what weights you shifting, how often, and is it consistent?! for 3 years id expect big numbers.
I havent recorded them on here lol i have a book i use, read my posts near the start of the journal which explain my weight lifting timeline, casue i havent been lifting 3yrs solid.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 13 2008 23:49:01
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Icemansoldier
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Everyone will be happy to know that ive decided to bulk and hopefully lean out, i dont believe my week spent cutting was a complete waste as i gained abit of valuble knowledge.
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 9:04:45
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ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier
Everyone will be happy to know that ive decided to bulk and hopefully lean out, i dont believe my week spent cutting was a complete waste as i gained abit of valuble knowledge.
Good attitude to have there mate, respect to ya.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 10:14:27
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A few observations from reading this.
There's a huge amount of information around what you're consuming but zero information about your training, other than you're planned training split. It would be more beneficial to see the exercises, weights used and progression made.
LMC
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ORIGINAL: tristram
not fat, more like lack of muscle.
you pump iron but thats not the full story for building up im afraid.
you got any records of training, come to think of it? weights lifted, when, reps, what is it now etc.
Yeah ive recorded since december
7 pages between my post and tristram's yet still not a single mention in any of your posts of an actual weight lifted.
You're anal to the point of developing an obsession with food and seem to post up every morsel that goes in your mouth yet show no sign of actually training.
When is your next weight training session?
You need to focus on writing up the session with the same enthusiasm as you're writing up your diet.
For your many years training you appear to look as if you're a relative new-comer to the gym and simply having 2000 calories or 1800 calories isn't going to change the way you look.
You need to start working on the whole package - weights, diet, CV.
I've never seen so many members try and offer so much advice only to have it fall on deaf ears. You'd be good having a look through Jack5r's journal - http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_2123440/tm.htm
He's young and new to weight training but isn't fannying around trying to work out the best macronutrient ratio and timing of each meal or anything else that quite frankly is pointless at your stage of training.
He just eats, trains, rests and his progress pics and weight progression is testament to the hard work he's put in to pursuing his training aims.
I thought I'd back out of this journal on Page 2 because it seemed you were ignoring everyone. Please prove me wrong and heed some of mine and the members posting on here's advice.
LMC
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 10:32:47
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Great advice by LMC. I note in each update to my journal (every training day, 4 days a week) how my strength was. I note down each exercise done, and note each set and weight lifted and reps. I think initially there is a fear that people will criticise you if you're not lifting as much as they are. Hell it's happened to me, but this is where the gift of ignorance comes into play, and a focus on your own training. Ideally you should never stop progressing in your weight training. Every week you should be at least trying to lift a heavier weight, or go for an extra rep. And if you're absolutely stuck on a certain exercise then try something different, such as 5X5 or a drop set, or a superset. Hell I've got chicken legs, and after posting pics of them it was quite rightly pointed out that I needed to do something about them. Even squatting 100kg for 10reps wasn't doing anything to them, so I attacked them another way; a 50rep drop set, starting at 60kg and ending at the bar. Straight away I noticed an increase in mass, and posted pictures clearly showing it.
Note everything down, every weight, every rep, for every exercise. This way we can analyse what you're doing and give help if necessary.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 11:14:05
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I havent recorded them on here lol i have a book i use, read my posts near the start of the journal which explain my weight lifting timeline, casue i havent been lifting 3yrs solid.
but here (in this journal) there is no actual evidence of you lifting weights. no offence but your pictures look like someone who hasnt even weight trained and is just getting into it. you can talk the talk about diet all you want, but your diet is not good. and talking about it every post is also not healthy.
the diet is not the fun bit of lifting and you shouldnt be discussing it everyday. you get it sorted on day 1, listen to the experts and follow it. then you forget about it and just follow it.
the lifting is meant to be the fun bit, the bit you talk about everyday. everyone wants to know about lifting but no one really cares about the diet, its just something you do.
if you want a basic diet of 2000 calories, which i used, i can copy and paste mine in here for you. you would of course need to modify it to suit your tastes and availability of food. and add in veg etc.
you need to sort out your output so it can be determined now what you need to eat. but once its sorted, you dont fuss about it everyday!
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:04:58
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Yeah sorry about that i was going to post my every workout as i said i would at the start of my journal but i simply didnt have th etime to write up my whole routine,set,reps etc. But i assure you i am progressing every week, if i exercise doesnt work for me like it has been i change it, there no problems with me training, ive got your advice and now have to put my diet right.
I plan to bulk now for ages with a little bit of cardio (prob 2-3 times a week for 20mins a session) and to nail far better diet than my current one. I plan on getting some liquid egg whites from MP today to help me up my protein intake on a daily basis.
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
FOR ALL EXERCISES FOR ALL BODYPARTS WITH, PICS & VIDEOS VISIT HERE:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:06:49
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could you give some info currently on your main lifts (bench, squat, deadlift, shoulder pressing)?
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:08:46
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MY ROUTINE:
Im training for strength and hypertrophy
TUES -
BACK
Lat pulldown (to front) - 4 sets
Reverse underhand grip pulldowns (shoulder width grip) - 4 sets
D'bell Rows - 3/4 sets
Deadlifts - 4 sets
BICEPS
EZ curl 21's - 3 sets
D'bell Curls - 3 sets
THUR -
LEGS
Squats - 4/5 sets
Leg Curl - 4 sets
Calve Raises - 4 sets
SHOULDERS
D'bell Presses - 3 sets
Shoulder Press machine (outer grip) - 3 sets
SUN -
CHEST
Flat BB - 4 sets
Incline BB - 4 sets
TRICEPS
Bench dips - 4/5 sets
Pushdown - 2/3 sets
ABS - TWICE A WEEK ON RANDOM DAYS
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:09:46
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could you give some info currently on your main lifts (bench, squat, deadlift, shoulder pressing)?
Do you mean what weight i lift atm? There my full routine.
< Message edited by Icemansoldier -- May 14 2008 12:10:00 >
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:10:46
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yes the weight youre actually shifting in, in kg or lbs.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:12:34
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Bench BB = 60kg - 2reps
D'bell = 25.5kg - 8 reps
Squat = 90kg - 5 reps
Deadlift = only 40kg atm due to the injury to my back, currently doing back exercises and seeing physio, so heavy deadlift is out of the question atm
Shoulder D'bell Press - 20kg - 5 reps
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 12:38:13
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Its a good idea to bulk bro. Eat big, clean, train heavy, hard...you will soon start seeing changes.
Good luck,
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 14:01:18
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Icemansoldier
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Its a good idea to bulk bro. Eat big, clean, train heavy, hard...you will soon start seeing changes.
Good luck,
Waheed
Ok cheers mate
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 14:03:19
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I feel my chest is prob by far my weakest part of my body, how much should i aim to add the benching each month? I can do 2 reps on 60kg atm, adding 2.5kg be ok each month so next month i should be able to do 62.5kg for 2 reps, is it stupid have aims or should i just progress as normal
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Squat - 125kg - 5 reps (in under 4 months)
Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
FOR ALL EXERCISES FOR ALL BODYPARTS WITH, PICS & VIDEOS VISIT HERE:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 15:54:23
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You should try and progress every workout mate. I used to alternate reps and weight.
Say if you were doing bench;
Week 1, 40kgx10
week 2, 40kgx12
week 3, 42.5kgx10
week 4, 42.5kgx12
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 14 2008 16:52:27
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id say at the moment sort a basic diet (that you dont fret over everyday recording it by the gram in your journal) and focus on lifting propley.
no offence but for 3 years training it is not good weight to shift, which is telling me youve done something wrong in the way you train. but there is no way to say for sure untill you show weights and reps per session.
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