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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 13:16:48
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right read the rest, some good posts, everyone knows what there talking about, iceman your diet does need moding.
not enough protein. ive been eating alot better recently, lot more eggs, and cottage cheese, and im ripping up form just that no cardio plus my protein intake is much higher, so im feeling im putting size on, im feeling good.
if your having 2200 cals, eating reg, cardio, your going to put your body fat down.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 15:58:08
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I just want to tone up, im not happy with the bf% of my body atm, and it covers up muscel which i have which make it just look crap compared to if i was a little more toned, currently 18% just want to drop down to 14/15% and maintain that hopefully through my bulk so i can happily bulk and be happy with my body and the same time, mentally i feel i have set my mind on losing weight, i know what your saying adil but do you see my point of view no wi have explained?
You know that while bulking, your BF% goes up again right?
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You dont get 14 1/2 inch arms (i know it nothing special at all) training for a month , my chest is really under-developed if its even a word
I suppose. Took me about 3 months to get to 14.5 inch arms 
With regards to chest. You routine is 4 sets of flat and 4 sets of incline BB. What sort of rep range do you stick to?
Have you tried mixing it up? Using dumbells instead of barbells? Also, include dips into your chest workout - one of the best mass-builders besides benching
Yeah adil im aware that bf tends to go up during a bulk, ut it can be controlled eg diet, cardio
Yeah just changed my routine there last week i had been using dumbbells for a while, tried bb and found i could actually more weight for more reps, so my routine now is falt and incline, i like to train for strength and mass so i tend to keep reps between 3 - 12. I may add in a few sets of d'bell flys too, to take my chest sets in total up to 10 or 11 in total.
Dont have dipping facility in my gym unfortunately ive heard great things about it
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 16:11:27
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Going to aim for 1600 - 1800 cal daily for this week to see how it goes.
woo loads of posts in few days, read them all in a min, yeah you do need more protein, as to your question before average person should have 2500 cals a day, what few boys at my gym do is cut down by about 300 cals so that 2200 a day, and do 40 mins cardio 4 times aweek, there good on getting 2lbs a week.
makes sure you eat reguarly 3 hours max, dont let your self go hungry or your body think its gonna have food shortage and store the food as fat, ready for energy.
also heard dont know how true it is, i havent looked it up, if your cals are too low i.e. 1600 cals a day, your body will think again its going to have a food shortage so it will store fat
Yeah went into tesco today and bought a few tins of tuna and a tin of sweetcorn, forgot to get quark  , got my ma and da to get me low fat mayo, low fat yoghurt and tesco extra light soft and smooth chesse spread 
Yeah trying to keep it up to 1800cal a day at least, see ho wthe first week goes, i hope to lose over 1lb but under 2 lbs, infact thats what i think, but ill see next week then take it from there.
One thing that annoys me is that its going to be really hard to tell if i lost 1.5lbs casue my scales are just basic one's and not electronic/digital.
Yeah no bother eating every 3 hrs , cheers beefy
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 16:15:16
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THURS 8TH MAY
BREAKY
Muesli - 150cal
SNACK
Protein sahke - 256 cal
Banana - 90cal
LUNCH
Tuna sweetcorn sandwich - 350 cal
SNACK
Mac Cheese - 500cal
Low fat yoghurt - 135cal
Peanuts - 100cal
DINNER
2 wholemeal pitta with chicken :) - around 400cal
SNACK
Protein Shake - 256cal
< Message edited by Icemansoldier -- May 8 2008 21:03:02 >
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 20:37:32
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THURS 8TH MAY
BREAKY
Muesli - 150cal
SNACK
Protein sahke - 256 cal
Banana - 90cal
LUNCH
Tuna sweetcorn sandwich - 350 cal
SNACK
Mac Cheese - 500cal
Low fat yoghurt - 135cal
Peanuts - 100cal
dont wanna be nasty, but that poo, sorry. need protein every time you eat to be honest, gotta have protein with breakfast.
eggs are nice and easy
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 20:40:12
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Going to aim for 1600 - 1800 cal daily for this week to see how it goes.
woo loads of posts in few days, read them all in a min, yeah you do need more protein, as to your question before average person should have 2500 cals a day, what few boys at my gym do is cut down by about 300 cals so that 2200 a day, and do 40 mins cardio 4 times aweek, there good on getting 2lbs a week.
makes sure you eat reguarly 3 hours max, dont let your self go hungry or your body think its gonna have food shortage and store the food as fat, ready for energy.
also heard dont know how true it is, i havent looked it up, if your cals are too low i.e. 1600 cals a day, your body will think again its going to have a food shortage so it will store fat
Yeah went into tesco today and bought a few tins of tuna and a tin of sweetcorn, forgot to get quark , got my ma and da to get me low fat mayo, low fat yoghurt and tesco extra light soft and smooth chesse spread
Yeah trying to keep it up to 1800cal a day at least, see ho wthe first week goes, i hope to lose over 1lb but under 2 lbs, infact thats what i think, but ill see next week then take it from there.
One thing that annoys me is that its going to be really hard to tell if i lost 1.5lbs casue my scales are just basic one's and not electronic/digital.
Yeah no bother eating every 3 hrs , cheers beefy
since my lil diet change ive lost 7lbs in 3 weeks. no cardio!!! mental, diet on my journal (might be some use to you as it got alot of protein), and just had green tea every day, mixed with caffine and effergen every other day, down to 8.5% bf. weight now 193lbs, two week till hol like to lose another 2lbs a week.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 20:49:16
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ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier
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ORIGINAL: beefycol
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ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier
Going to aim for 1600 - 1800 cal daily for this week to see how it goes.
woo loads of posts in few days, read them all in a min, yeah you do need more protein, as to your question before average person should have 2500 cals a day, what few boys at my gym do is cut down by about 300 cals so that 2200 a day, and do 40 mins cardio 4 times aweek, there good on getting 2lbs a week.
makes sure you eat reguarly 3 hours max, dont let your self go hungry or your body think its gonna have food shortage and store the food as fat, ready for energy.
also heard dont know how true it is, i havent looked it up, if your cals are too low i.e. 1600 cals a day, your body will think again its going to have a food shortage so it will store fat
Yeah went into tesco today and bought a few tins of tuna and a tin of sweetcorn, forgot to get quark , got my ma and da to get me low fat mayo, low fat yoghurt and tesco extra light soft and smooth chesse spread
Yeah trying to keep it up to 1800cal a day at least, see ho wthe first week goes, i hope to lose over 1lb but under 2 lbs, infact thats what i think, but ill see next week then take it from there.
One thing that annoys me is that its going to be really hard to tell if i lost 1.5lbs casue my scales are just basic one's and not electronic/digital.
Yeah no bother eating every 3 hrs , cheers beefy
since my lil diet change ive lost 7lbs in 3 weeks. no cardio!!! mental, diet on my journal (might be some use to you as it got alot of protein), and just had green tea every day, mixed with caffine and effergen every other day, down to 8.5% bf. weight now 193lbs, two week till hol like to lose another 2lbs a week.
yeah your going well, good luck to you, it will be no bother to you, ill have a look at your juornal now beefy, cheers
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 20:50:55
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ORIGINAL: beefycol
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ORIGINAL: Icemansoldier
THURS 8TH MAY
BREAKY
Muesli - 150cal
SNACK
Protein sahke - 256 cal
Banana - 90cal
LUNCH
Tuna sweetcorn sandwich - 350 cal
SNACK
Mac Cheese - 500cal
Low fat yoghurt - 135cal
Peanuts - 100cal
dont wanna be nasty, but that poo, sorry. need protein every time you eat to be honest, gotta have protein with breakfast.
eggs are nice and easy
yeah no offence i know everyone's only trying to help
as you know as i seen you post it, aim for a gram of protein to lb of weight, ie 200lbs=200grams of protein. try spread it out over the day, eating every 3 hours. you will get there just dont give up 
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 20:58:53
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Weetabix and eggs for breakfast beefy lol ?
What are oatcakes like and why do you eat them?
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 21:04:10
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Weetabix and eggs for breakfast beefy lol ?
What are oatcakes like and why do you eat them?
yeah yeah i have weetabix, i dont have suger on when cutting tho, and ill have 2 egg yolks, maybe 4 egg whites depending on how i feel.
oatcakes are good source of carbs, can use the like bread, but better that eating bread. i dont eat bread on a cut
still gotta eat carbs cant cut them out competly.
few blokes do carb cycling, was gonna give it ago but didnt get into it, might after hol as im going on another one
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 21:05:26
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Im controlling calories so is it ok i eat mac cheese etc as long as i get 1g of protein per 1lb bodyweight, protein is the main issue is it beefy, then what i eat will be the 2nd most important, yeah?
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Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 21:11:03
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Im controlling calories so is it ok i eat mac cheese etc as long as i get 1g of protein per 1lb bodyweight, protein is the main issue is it beefy, then what i eat will be the 2nd most important, yeah?
yeah with out protein you wont grow, (other things do help). i would concentrate on protein intake, then the cals.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 22:38:52
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Weetabix and eggs for breakfast beefy lol ?
What are oatcakes like and why do you eat them?
yeah yeah i have weetabix, i dont have suger on when cutting tho, and ill have 2 egg yolks, maybe 4 egg whites depending on how i feel.
oatcakes are good source of carbs, can use the like bread, but better that eating bread. i dont eat bread on a cut
still gotta eat carbs cant cut them out competly.
few blokes do carb cycling, was gonna give it ago but didnt get into it, might after hol as im going on another one
Yeah dw i wasnt critising you for eating weetabix or egg yolks, do you put the weetabix in hot milk and eat then down to egg yolks yeah?
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 8 2008 22:40:12
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Im controlling calories so is it ok i eat mac cheese etc as long as i get 1g of protein per 1lb bodyweight, protein is the main issue is it beefy, then what i eat will be the 2nd most important, yeah?
yeah with out protein you wont grow, (other things do help). i would concentrate on protein intake, then the cals.
Yeah ok, i must get some choc whey and add it to my porridge for breaky, casue i got choc orange atm and put a scoop of that in my porridge the other day it wasnt great becasue of the orange flavour, so choc should be good
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Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 9 2008 11:20:37
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Weetabix and eggs for breakfast beefy lol ?
What are oatcakes like and why do you eat them?
yeah yeah i have weetabix, i dont have suger on when cutting tho, and ill have 2 egg yolks, maybe 4 egg whites depending on how i feel.
oatcakes are good source of carbs, can use the like bread, but better that eating bread. i dont eat bread on a cut
still gotta eat carbs cant cut them out competly.
few blokes do carb cycling, was gonna give it ago but didnt get into it, might after hol as im going on another one
Yeah dw i wasnt critising you for eating weetabix or egg yolks, do you put the weetabix in hot milk and eat then down to egg yolks yeah?
egg whites is the protein eat as many as them as you can, egg yolks is the fat, but got few vits in it, only have few a day.
ill eat some weetabix 3-4 with cold milk (hot milk be fine if that what you want), and eat the eggs after.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 9 2008 11:22:49
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Im controlling calories so is it ok i eat mac cheese etc as long as i get 1g of protein per 1lb bodyweight, protein is the main issue is it beefy, then what i eat will be the 2nd most important, yeah?
yeah with out protein you wont grow, (other things do help). i would concentrate on protein intake, then the cals.
Yeah ok, i must get some choc whey and add it to my porridge for breaky, casue i got choc orange atm and put a scoop of that in my porridge the other day it wasnt great becasue of the orange flavour, so choc should be good
lol havent tried that, also for protein intake, solid foods are better than whey powder, concentrate on solid foods and add shake in on top, few times a day.
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 9 2008 11:52:51
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Weetabix and eggs for breakfast beefy lol ?
What are oatcakes like and why do you eat them?
yeah yeah i have weetabix, i dont have suger on when cutting tho, and ill have 2 egg yolks, maybe 4 egg whites depending on how i feel.
oatcakes are good source of carbs, can use the like bread, but better that eating bread. i dont eat bread on a cut
still gotta eat carbs cant cut them out competly.
few blokes do carb cycling, was gonna give it ago but didnt get into it, might after hol as im going on another one
Yeah dw i wasnt critising you for eating weetabix or egg yolks, do you put the weetabix in hot milk and eat then down to egg yolks yeah?
egg whites is the protein eat as many as them as you can, egg yolks is the fat, but got few vits in it, only have few a day.
ill eat some weetabix 3-4 with cold milk (hot milk be fine if that what you want), and eat the eggs after.
so your just using the weetabix to full yourself up and there prob low on calories too im guessing?
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RE: SHO'S AKA ICEMAN'S 1ST EVER CUT....... - May 9 2008 11:53:37
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Im controlling calories so is it ok i eat mac cheese etc as long as i get 1g of protein per 1lb bodyweight, protein is the main issue is it beefy, then what i eat will be the 2nd most important, yeah?
yeah with out protein you wont grow, (other things do help). i would concentrate on protein intake, then the cals.
Yeah ok, i must get some choc whey and add it to my porridge for breaky, casue i got choc orange atm and put a scoop of that in my porridge the other day it wasnt great becasue of the orange flavour, so choc should be good
lol havent tried that, also for protein intake, solid foods are better than whey powder, concentrate on solid foods and add shake in on top, few times a day.
Ive heard alot of poeple doing it i bet a few do it on the forum lol
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Deadlift PB - 110 kg - 4 reps (in 2 months)
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