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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 13:16:54
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Where can you buy cheap Ephedrine/Caffiene....not bothered about aspirin though !
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 14:15:22
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centurysupplements.com is your best bet for a legal source
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 14:54:00
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What is the fundamental difference between 'Hot Rox' and 'Burn3d' ?
Normally I would use Eph and a Clen stack but I dont want that scatty, jittery feeling (doesn't help when chatting to ladies now does it ! ) 
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 17:18:12
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What is the fundamental difference between 'Hot Rox' and 'Burn3d' ?
Normally I would use Eph and a Clen stack but I dont want that scatty, jittery feeling (doesn't help when chatting to ladies now does it ! )
They're both quite different. Hot Rox I think has PEA in it which is in a lot of fat loss supplements at the moment, phenylalamine or something. It's also a "stim" product. BURN3D isn't a stim whatsoever, it's not thermogenic either. TTA helps liberate fatty acids, whereas Hot Rox I presume helps burn fat by increasing body temp and calorie expenditure.
The ingredient list of Hot Rox looks quite good, I've just read a few bad things about it and the company behind it.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 17:30:54
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Hi firest0rm:
I've been reading through your posts actually mate !
I just bought some Burn3d, however I was also tempted at purchasing the ALCAR so may run that also when I get some £££ next week.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 18:04:22
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Yea I rate ALCAR quite highly to be honest. I've been on 6grams a day for the past 3 weeks. Other than fat loss it gives you good focus on the gym and makes you feel good too, at least for me anyway. I'll be upping the dose to 10grams a day on Saturday. I thought BURN3D was a very good supplement, and underrated too. Never really read many people using it, either over here or on AM. There is a bloat issue, but you need to be patient and not stop taking it. It usually starts around day 5ish, and ends after about 2 weeks. It comes, supposedly, from the liberated fatty acids sort of congregating around your mid section, waiting to be burnt/shat out.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 18:22:08
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Hmm wonder how that will work out with my diet ?
(Anabolic solution)
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 19:35:43
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good old fashioned cardio :D lol. but if you want to speed the process, my missis swears by nutrex-lipo6 (voted best fat metaboliser 07/08) chek it out mate. With a controlled diet and excercise program, the results are impressive
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 7 2008 19:44:27
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Cheers, will have a look.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 0:20:39
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I have used MP before with some good results.
TTA based products must be thermogenic, where else does the expended cals go ?
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 0:38:11
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I wouldnt call myself a beginner but the most only supps ive took before are Whey and Creatine.Might go on a cut and if I was to would Grenade help me?Im read posts on here and it seems very effective but only along with the right diet obviously.Is it safe for first time users say?No plans as of yet.Just checking out at the moment.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 7:08:42
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I have used MP before with some good results.
TTA based products must be thermogenic, where else does the expended cals go ?
i think the idea of TTA based products is to readily free up the fatty cells, the user has to put the effort in to burn them
i.e cardio / weight train
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 8:34:09
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http://ezinearticles.com/?TTA-(Tetradecylthioacetic-Acid)-For-A-Leaner-And-Muscular-Body&id=1023004
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Although it does not appear to encourage muscle growth on its own, it does encourage lipolysis, or fat burning. Best of all, it appears to do this without forcing your body to use fat stores for energy, which means that it is simply forced out of the body instead of having to be burned off.
http://www.a-z-nutrition.com/blazextreme.html
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TTA stimulates the breakdown of triglycerides (fat) by signaling the liver to catabolize fatty acids, causing the rapid clearance of fat from the blood stream (11). TTA also completely abolishes diet induced insulin resistance and thus improves insulin sensitivity (12).
Not exactly scientific journals, but a brief description of what TTA does and how it does it.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 10:05:28
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ORIGINAL: dianabolik
Where can you buy cheap Ephedrine/Caffiene....not bothered about aspirin though !
Search on Google for "Grenade" - it's a Mu huang fat burner. Look to pay like 33 quid all in.
It's hard to find / source for stock...so worth calling them up before hand to check it's in stock.
Same advice goes to anyone selling Eph25+ - they're weird things to source...so stocking at some places is often haphazard.
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 11:26:06
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I Have no idea, but i've used them for over a year now
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 8 2008 11:43:44
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Thats the best product container I've ever seen !
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RE: Best fat burner supplement - May 9 2008 15:46:03
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I have to be careful though. I have a beard you see . Might see me in belmarsh if they catch me
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