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First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 6 2008 20:55:07   
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Alright chaps, I've been waiting 5 years before hitting roids and I'm proud to have waited that long, now that diet and training is very good I'm ready for the next move

I'll be running d-bol at 25mg ED for 6 weeks

I want to take it in 4 or 5 times each day (to keep blood pressure levels stable) and was thinking to do 10mg at 9 pm, 5mg at 1pm, 5mg at 4pm (train at 5pm) and 5mg at 7pm or should I take it 5 times 5mg and take my last tab before bed?

What would you do?

I will be taking 175mg Milk thistle caps 2 or 3 caps a day (2 enough or 3?) throughout those 6 weeks

For PCT:

Nolvadex (tamoxifen) first day after my last d-bol day :

day 1 : 60mg
day 2 -11 : 40mg
day 12-21 : 20mg

In case I see signs of gyno I would do day 1 : 60mg
day 2 : 40mg
day 3 : 20mg until start of PCT and throughout PCT

I posted a pic (apologies for the quality) of the d-bol I bought, it says British Embassy at the bottom and there's a little hologram with the same sign - looks like a dragon. It comes from Thailand, sounds real enough for you? Supposed to be original ...

The second pic is the nolva but can't really see a thing on there

I hope you can answer all my questions as I'm quite excited about it being my first cycle but want to be sure I'm doing the right thing...

THANKS !!





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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 6 2008 22:24:25   
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to be honest id just do 15mg on waking, and 10 mg an hour before bed. If the dose was 30mg perday id do 10mg 3 times in the day.

25mg per day is quite a low dose, so dont expect miracles, but if you train hard and eat well you should see some gains.

enjoy it!

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 8:27:03   
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ORIGINAL: hardgainer1234

Alright chaps, I've been waiting 5 years before hitting roids and I'm proud to have waited that long, now that diet and training is very good I'm ready for the next move

I'll be running d-bol at 25mg ED for 6 weeks

I want to take it in 4 or 5 times each day (to keep blood pressure levels stable) and was thinking to do 10mg at 9 pm, 5mg at 1pm, 5mg at 4pm (train at 5pm) and 5mg at 7pm or should I take it 5 times 5mg and take my last tab before bed?

What would you do?

I will be taking 175mg Milk thistle caps 2 or 3 caps a day (2 enough or 3?) throughout those 6 weeks

For PCT:

Nolvadex (tamoxifen) first day after my last d-bol day :

day 1 : 60mg
day 2 -11 : 40mg
day 12-21 : 20mg

In case I see signs of gyno I would do day 1 : 60mg
day 2 : 40mg
day 3 : 20mg until start of PCT and throughout PCT

I posted a pic (apologies for the quality) of the d-bol I bought, it says British Embassy at the bottom and there's a little hologram with the same sign - looks like a dragon. It comes from Thailand, sounds real enough for you? Supposed to be original ...

The second pic is the nolva but can't really see a thing on there

I hope you can answer all my questions as I'm quite excited about it being my first cycle but want to be sure I'm doing the right thing...

THANKS !!





http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5048/photo006zi4.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8195/photo009cc1.jpg



Looks well planned - good luck

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 8:53:59   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hardgainer1234

Alright chaps, I've been waiting 5 years before hitting roids and I'm proud to have waited that long, now that diet and training is very good I'm ready for the next move

I'll be running d-bol at 25mg ED for 6 weeks

I want to take it in 4 or 5 times each day (to keep blood pressure levels stable) and was thinking to do 10mg at 9 pm, 5mg at 1pm, 5mg at 4pm (train at 5pm) and 5mg at 7pm or should I take it 5 times 5mg and take my last tab before bed?

What would you do?

I will be taking 175mg Milk thistle caps 2 or 3 caps a day (2 enough or 3?) throughout those 6 weeks

For PCT:

Nolvadex (tamoxifen) first day after my last d-bol day :

day 1 : 60mg
day 2 -11 : 40mg
day 12-21 : 20mg

In case I see signs of gyno I would do day 1 : 60mg
day 2 : 40mg
day 3 : 20mg until start of PCT and throughout PCT

I posted a pic (apologies for the quality) of the d-bol I bought, it says British Embassy at the bottom and there's a little hologram with the same sign - looks like a dragon. It comes from Thailand, sounds real enough for you? Supposed to be original ...

The second pic is the nolva but can't really see a thing on there

I hope you can answer all my questions as I'm quite excited about it being my first cycle but want to be sure I'm doing the right thing...

THANKS !!





http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5048/photo006zi4.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8195/photo009cc1.jpg



Looks well planned - good luck

thanks Mick

Would you take it as dazc suggests too?

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 8:55:09   
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quote:

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to be honest id just do 15mg on waking, and 10 mg an hour before bed. If the dose was 30mg perday id do 10mg 3 times in the day.

25mg per day is quite a low dose, so dont expect miracles, but if you train hard and eat well you should see some gains.

enjoy it!

I know, just want to set a foot in this world and see how it works for me. Training & diet sorted so hope to put on a bit of mass.. I'm still a tad skinny so that dose seems ok to start with imo

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 8:57:39   
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I would take 10mg on waking..

10mg before training

and 5 mg before bed..

Just my preference though

25mg of dbol is more than enough for a 1st cycle also IMO

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:10:50   
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I would take 10mg on waking..

10mg before training

and 5 mg before bed..

Just my preference though

25mg of dbol is more than enough for a 1st cycle also IMO


looks like taking it on an empty stomach is better then?

I shouldn't be taking it with meals ?

I've got it here with me at work, should I take 10mg now (I ate an hour ago) and 15mg before bed?

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:11:50   
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Depends mate - I tend to take it with meals

so to avoid stomach upsets

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:12:26   
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I think this is down to personal preference, I had mine with some food to stop any stomach problems.

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:13:23   
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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:14:42   
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Depends mate - I tend to take it with meals

so to avoid stomach upsets

Ok it's coz I saw you and dazc say to take it on waking and obviously that's on an empty stomach but then I would have brekkie anyway so fine.. I'll take 10 now, 10 before training and 5 before bed !

Cheers mate

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:16:53   
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Not a problem mate - keep this thread updated with

how you get on

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:31:23   
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Not a problem mate - keep this thread updated with

how you get on

will do fella

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 9:40:56   
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but it is still an oral only cycle ! why not a bit of test Mick ?? or masteron for the bloat and oestrogens ?

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 10:04:04   
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LOL

It's upto the OP mate...

Not my cycle

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 10:51:42   
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but it is still an oral only cycle !


What's wrong with that?

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 11:49:26   
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but it is still an oral only cycle ! why not a bit of test Mick ?? or masteron for the bloat and oestrogens ?

my reason for not taking this is that I've got nolva for the anti oestrogen for PCT (and on hand in case of gyno) and bloat doesn't really bother me yet, as firstly I might not be doing a lot of water ret and secondly I might benefit from it as I'm on an oral only cycle, if I had some test in there I might be using something against bloat as I would still get good results off the test... I'll use an injectable in my next cycle.. This is like a first starter's cycle to see how my body reacts to AAA's

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 15:40:26   
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always better to start off slowly and introduce new stuff one at a time, its the easiest way to learn what does what for you

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 7 2008 19:29:50   
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always better to start off slowly and introduce new stuff one at a time, its the easiest way to learn what does what for you

that's what I think, I've been interested in AAA's for 5 years and have waited this long so I can wait another 5 months to try other stuff

I'll probably do an injectable next cycle then maybe an oral and inject like winny and test enan or something ...

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RE: First cycle tomorrow - please give me your advise - May 9 2008 23:27:27   
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thought I'd give an update.. 3 days into my cycle I defo felt stronger in the gym, a lot of will to carry weights and confidence thanks to the fact I was feeling stronger BUT I feel bloated as F### round the abs area, it looks so strange to me as my abs are usually quite apparent as I hardly have any fat !! I do hope it's the water though coz if it's not it means I've put some fat on

Where does water retention usually show when taking d-bol? Will the nolva defo get rid of it during PCT ?

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