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How do you rate this physique?
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(last vote on : May 9 2008 13:46:10)
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 20:10:51
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just t
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looks good to me, i couldnt get in that condition!
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 20:37:00
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PAGAN
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Cu3ed, JohnKerr, Gaz or any of the other great PhotoShop experts, would you be able to take a member's pic (with their consent) and see what you can do in terms of photoshopping so we can draw a comparison between the real image and what can be achieved from touching it up. Maybe Pagan's pic as a little bonus for him for winning the Shape-Up (if he agrees) By all means I think the guy looks sh*t hot. He appears to be of naturally slim build looking at his forearms but he's carrying a fair bit of mass with excellent condition.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:34:28
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I disagree about BB becoming arrogant. What he said works. People just dont like being told what works and what they are doing is wrong.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:42:44
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Lord Monkcheese
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ORIGINAL: jack5r quote:
ORIGINAL: Lord Monkcheese Cu3ed, JohnKerr, Gaz or any of the other great PhotoShop experts, would you be able to take a member's pic (with their consent) and see what you can do in terms of photoshopping so we can draw a comparison between the real image and what can be achieved from touching it up. Maybe Pagan's pic as a little bonus for him for winning the Shape-Up (if he agrees) Yes. Make me look beautifull please. It's PhotoShop Jack - not a magic wand
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:44:37
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theiopener
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ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou I disagree about BB becoming arrogant. What he said works. People just dont like being told what works and what they are doing is wrong. Serious question did his advice work for everyone who he gave it to? I said he became a bit arrogant towards the end when he and Integra kept arguing with one another. Its very hard for anyone to give advice and for it to work for everyone. He knew what worked for him and it showed and i give massive respect for that but what works for one may not work for others
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:54:36
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cu3ed
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Two things, this isnt my filed of expertise (literally not many hours doing this kinda thing/ Airbrushing) I spent appox 5-10 mins woking on this... Alot more can be done, and i can turn everything up, but I always go for the blievable, problem here is we have a REAL point of reference, I could go nuts, and if somone seeing my version for the first time would just accept it. Start 5-10mins Pushing my luck lol F.ing photobucket, might not display all of them.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:56:41
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have you got the original pic as well cu3ed?
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 21:58:21
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Papa Lazarou
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ORIGINAL: theiopener quote:
ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou I disagree about BB becoming arrogant. What he said works. People just dont like being told what works and what they are doing is wrong. what works for one may not work for others True. But even if people followed half of his tips they would get halfway there. Personally I have followed a lot of what he said and its worked. Most people won't get his results as they are not committed enough, do not eat enough, train enough, do not rest enough. Most people want the easy route and viewing the TAOS shows this. Alot of bods on there really don't need AAS or close. Esp the 16-20 year olds in the MOST part (not al).
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 22:03:50
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Lord Monkcheese
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ORIGINAL: cu3ed Alot more can be done, and i can turn everything up, but I always go for the blievable, problem here is we have a REAL point of reference, I could go nuts, and if somone seeing my version for the first time would just accept it. I'd like to see what you could do if you cranked the handle of believability to nuts!!! It looks like you've just given Pagan a tan. Have another try.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 22:06:36
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cu3ed
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Look harder...you dont see the tighter waist, more noticable abs, the pecs closed in, made larger, alittle size added to the arms and more definition added in. And this isnt even my area of training in PS! I would actually need the original file to get the quality, you push much more and the web scaled image breaks down badly.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 22:09:12
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Lord Monkcheese
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Now there's a pic 3 I see the difference. Very subtle. Testament to Pagan's hard work that it's almost the finished article already and there's not much the fraudster can do with it.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 7 2008 22:09:54
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theiopener
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ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou quote:
ORIGINAL: theiopener quote:
ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou I disagree about BB becoming arrogant. What he said works. People just dont like being told what works and what they are doing is wrong. what works for one may not work for others True. But even if people followed half of his tips they would get halfway there. Personally I have followed a lot of what he said and its worked. Most people won't get his results as they are not committed enough, do not eat enough, train enough, do not rest enough. Most people want the easy route and viewing the TAOS shows this. Alot of bods on there really don't need AAS or close. Esp the 16-20 year olds in the MOST part (not al). Nor do they have his genetics I agree though on the standpoint of jumping in early to the chemical route and impatience but i think we are going O/t
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 8:12:38
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bet he gets some snatch tho
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 13:29:10
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Hmmm.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 13:44:20
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Lord Monkcheese
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Pagan - quick, get that up as your new avatar.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 13:55:30
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i am never going to believe any picture i see in a magazine from now on.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 15:27:45
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I voted good based on the first picture. It does depend on what people are juding it against though!? I'm judging it on what i see as appealing. Where as someone juding it on competion bodybuilder standard (ie. the BIG guys) then he will fall short in the rankings.
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 15:38:22
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ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou quote:
ORIGINAL: theiopener quote:
ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou I disagree about BB becoming arrogant. What he said works. People just dont like being told what works and what they are doing is wrong. what works for one may not work for others True. But even if people followed half of his tips they would get halfway there. Personally I have followed a lot of what he said and its worked. Most people won't get his results as they are not committed enough, do not eat enough, train enough, do not rest enough. Most people want the easy route and viewing the TAOS shows this. Alot of bods on there really don't need AAS or close. Esp the 16-20 year olds in the MOST part (not al). hes over at ukm if anyones interested. looking big too a few things like blitzing muscles to make them grow and eating sh1tloads stuck with me. i dont think genetics should really come into it that much. hes been training since he was 17yo remember. its funny how when someone achieves a good physqiue all of a sudden its good genetics. not a stab at anyone just an observation
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RE: How do you rate this physique? - May 8 2008 19:07:55
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eddie182
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Did anyone notice how very slim his forearms are tho?
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