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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 7 2008 22:20:57
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MRJD
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I've worked in sales all my working life, did 2 years cold calling while at college of an evening offering a free quote on kitchens. While there I found I got alot more knock backs than in recent roles and as a result don't mind cold calling. I then went on to be a sales executive for a company with a bad reputation but the money was there before I went on to Lead generate at a stockbrokers then moved onto become and international property broker while I completed the FSA examinations due to not enjoying the lead generating and it feeling like a step backwards.
Personally I think if your willing to put the hours in anything is possible, while working at the stockbrokers I saw someone take home 80k in a month, people might say it seems far fetched but if someones worked in sales for a good few years, puts in 12 hour days, only takes 30 mins for lunch etc anything is possible. You work around the long hours finding times to train, in London there are gyms that open at 5/6 close at 11 so even if you live outside you can train before you go home. The only thing I found which could be a problem is some companies not letting you eat outside of lunch or designated breaks for the nutrition side.
Hope this helps you make a decision
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 7 2008 22:21:59
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Consultants can earn way beyond that, especially in London. 30K is at the very lower end from my experience.
Recruitment consultants are rarely liked by the companies they source people for, the hours are supposedly horrendous and you need to be good at sales. Anyone I've known who works in the field though has made some very good money.
Not my kind of job I have to say.
I've got some good sales results in my current job but that's mainly people calling in to me and giving me something to work with. Reckon the other side of sales could be a bit of a rude awakening for me. I don't mind working long hours as long as i can fit training in.
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You work in execution only stockbroing at the moment? You not going to stick with that? Im in the same field.
I do aye, well remembered! Tbh it's not a graduate job i'm in and any sort of progression would take an absolute age. More to the point though, i've had a bit of a change in circumstances recently and i need to find a higher paying job (in London) asap. My aim for the next five years is to secure a good law traineeship in London so i want to be based down there for interviews etc.
Yeah I did law as well. Ive got a grad job in banking but doesent start until October. Agreed the progression in this type of business can be painfully slow. Salaries are low as well unless your above middle management.
Ive got a fair idea who you work for based on your location. Weve got an investor centre in London and a job came up for that I reckon I could have got. Pretty good money plus they would fastrack you though SIC, derivatives exams etc. Dont think anyone applied for it through ours so I could have got it by default lol. Not even been with the company a year.
Few years there and could have moved to a advisory/discretionary broker in the city.
Good luck on the legal route. Im probably gonna jack this in shortly and get another job till my grad one starts as my role is doing my head in.
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 7 2008 22:40:21
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yeah i can assure i'm not fibbing.. two of the lads are 2 of my best mates, i've seen them roll in big sums some months.
if you want something to make you sick with envy, lad at a pretty small company that one of those two mentioned above works for (team of 20), brought in 120k last year and he's 22 yrs old, he's now driving a porsche carrera, his boss has a lambourghini murceliago.. there's bloody good money in that field
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 7 2008 23:16:24
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what uni you go too ? you saving for your LPC?
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 7 2008 23:20:12
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Yeah I did law as well. Ive got a grad job in banking but doesent start until October. Agreed the progression in this type of business can be painfully slow. Salaries are low as well unless your above middle management.
Ive got a fair idea who you work for based on your location. Weve got an investor centre in London and a job came up for that I reckon I could have got. Pretty good money plus they would fastrack you though SIC, derivatives exams etc. Dont think anyone applied for it through ours so I could have got it by default lol. Not even been with the company a year.
Few years there and could have moved to a advisory/discretionary broker in the city.
Good luck on the legal route. Im probably gonna jack this in shortly and get another job till my grad one starts as my role is doing my head in.
I'm struggling to fund my LPC so i'm relying on being able to put some money to gradually save up for that and get back on the legal track. Would be nice to earn some nice money while doing it though.
Sounds like a good opportunity you had there, how come you didn/'t go for it? Suppose if you're looking at crazy hours/money there's no better place than the City. Who's your grad job with? I was looking at the HSBC scheme last year, missed the deadline by a day though but might go for it this time round.
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what uni you go too ? you saving for your LPC?
If you're talking to me then Aberdeen, and i'm trying to, but it's not been too successful 
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 8 2008 6:46:28
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I spent 3 years in recruitment. I'm glad to be out of it, though that's down to my personal experience. Recruitment Consultancies are like car dealers and estate agents. There's a lot of sh*t out there which makes it hard to find a good one to work for and for clients to trust. There's several ways in which this job works, there's several different types of company too, from "Fred in his shed Recruitment' to Global entities. Some over use KPI's in such a fashion that it means if they're followed, any muppet will have some degree od success, throw sh*t on a wall, some of it sticks mantra. The downside is that with x number of consultancies in a town, with x number of people needing to make 100+ cold calls a week, the businesses soon get very pi55ed off.
Recruitment has a massive level of staff attrition. There's more vacancies than consultants. A better indication of job satisfaction, than directly researching som very vain people who want to be perceived as successfull. The attrition in some cases is also partly due to being on call 24/7. This is most common in industrial recruitment. Get phone calls all hours of the weekend because some workshy scrote hasn't turned up, for a 50p an hour margin is demoralising. Dealing with the spanners who claim they want to work in those low level environments is also irksome. They lie through their teeth then don't show up. Koonts.
If you do go for it, look into specialist arenas. Finance, IT and Engineering are slower burns, but greater margins and better reward. Plus you're dealing with skilled people who actually want jobs. Sounds snobbish but it is some much more refreshing than trying to manage work shy doleys who just want their giro.
When you meet prospective companies, qualify how the bonus scheme works. The simpler the better. Convoluted multiplier schemes are rarely very truthful or pay out as they promise. Ask to see the bible sheet of the person who has left the company. See what level of business they were doing, what margins they were getting (percentages in low 20's is a good sign) and how much they earned. Be prepared for lots of flannel and B.S from managers too.
It's not a very mentally stimulating environment to work in. Lateral thinkers can do well. Wouldn't reccommend it to a graduate. Saying it's a graduate role is just hype. They just need people who can string a sentence together when talking to a MD.
When you do get a good client base, it can be rewarding to see the relationships develop. I loved visitng businesses and learning all about them, never really felt like work.
This role suits hardened cold callers, people who have done the double glazing sales type stuff. It can be very demoralising. Don't think you're safe by working for the biggest etc. I've seen some bl00dy awful things perpetrated by a company commonly known as the worlds largest.
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 8 2008 13:59:19
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That's really helpful mate, cheers. The guy sent me a list of companies i'd be going for, so i'll shoot you a mail later if that's cool.
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 8 2008 17:48:15
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Yeah I did law as well. Ive got a grad job in banking but doesent start until October. Agreed the progression in this type of business can be painfully slow. Salaries are low as well unless your above middle management.
Ive got a fair idea who you work for based on your location. Weve got an investor centre in London and a job came up for that I reckon I could have got. Pretty good money plus they would fastrack you though SIC, derivatives exams etc. Dont think anyone applied for it through ours so I could have got it by default lol. Not even been with the company a year.
Few years there and could have moved to a advisory/discretionary broker in the city.
Good luck on the legal route. Im probably gonna jack this in shortly and get another job till my grad one starts as my role is doing my head in.
I'm struggling to fund my LPC so i'm relying on being able to put some money to gradually save up for that and get back on the legal track. Would be nice to earn some nice money while doing it though.
Sounds like a good opportunity you had there, how come you didn/'t go for it? Suppose if you're looking at crazy hours/money there's no better place than the City. Who's your grad job with? I was looking at the HSBC scheme last year, missed the deadline by a day though but might go for it this time round.
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what uni you go too ? you saving for your LPC?
If you're talking to me then Aberdeen, and i'm trying to, but it's not been too successful
Didnt want to move to London as the half decent salary would have been eathen up by living costs.. My grad job is with National Australia Group. I got to the HSBC assesment centre in London. Glad I got knocked back as my salary with this lot is much better.
Probably gonna jack this in in a month its really doing my head in the job im doing at the moment.
Good luck with it all.
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RE: Recruitment consultant - May 8 2008 18:17:20
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Rosc0PColtrane
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That's really helpful mate, cheers. The guy sent me a list of companies i'd be going for, so i'll shoot you a mail later if that's cool.
By all means. Though I'm not sure how helpful I can be with it!
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