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Baile -> FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 4:30:04)

Heya,

Looking to get some information from others who have had the surgery.

Bit of some background info, I've got mild gyno developed from past AAS use. Will let the docs know about my gyno but not my steroid use soon. I'm tired of fighting the gyno with nolvadex and other ancillaries just to have it come back as I must be pretty sensitive to it.
The gyno is old, I let it sit as it wasn't much noticeable but tends flare each cycle. I'm not looking to quit AAS anytime soon so seems like the best long term option for me.

Some questions:

1. I've heard there is two types of surgery. I'd like to have surgery so the possibility of gyno returning is not possible.

2. Will the docs attempt to put me on some type of medication first?

3. Should I be off AAS at the time I notify them, in case blood tests are run, which the AAS would set off?
As well could being on AAS shortly after or during effect the outcome of the surgery results?

4. I understand that I should ask for a plastic surgeon and not a regular ER surgeon once the time comes?

5. Any other questions/things I should tell the doc?

Many thanks for your time.


Baile -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 4:31:48)

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cleg -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 7:55:25)

Hi mate.This is from experience:

1.Make sure you have the gland under the nipple cut away and not just lipo done.I had just lipo done a few years back which left the lumps under the nipples which were the main culprit for it looking bad.Also if you get the gland cut away it will stop the gyno from returning.Some doctors say they can only cut some of it away (I think) so it wouldn't eliminate totally the chances of gyno again but would reduce it.
2.You wont get put on any medication first.What reason would they need to?
3.If you're trying to get this done through the NHS you'd be a fool to have any gear in your system.Bloodtests will be done for testosterone and will prove that you on them.I would guess that if they knew this they would tell you to sling your hook.If you're going private and paying a lot of money,who gives a **** if they know you're using gear or not.They want your money mate,make no mistake.I dont personally see how being on gear can affect the outcome of surgery.
4.I would have thought only a plastic surgeon would do this procedure anyway to be honest.
5.If you use NHS,just tell them that you've lived with the problem since a teen (as it can develop naturally,as happened with me) and its getting you down etc.

Hope this helps.


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 8:01:55)

how much for gyno surgery private?


cleg -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 8:23:02)

Somebody in a similar post last week said he was quoted £2500-£2900.A lot of dough but comforting to know that it's there if desperately needed.


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 8:25:58)

not too bad... a boob job costs £3000-3500, this is a reverse boob job [:D]

i'm with BUPA already


wilki_C -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 12:26:20)

I had gyno surgery when i was 15. I thik they took the gland out as i have now developed a small amount of gyno in my right nipple as a result of a cycle and not in my left where i had the operation (SIGH!!).

Anywho my nipple after the Op looks a little irregular as it caves slightly inwards. For the first couple years after surgery i was a little bothered about it but i couldnt really care less tbh now. Nobody ever notices and if they do i just make fun of it and use it as a conversational starter lol. I would recomend the surgery, as i feel much better not havin a huge lump under my chest making it look like i have moobs!


Roots -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 13:27:32)

surgery can top at around 4k for some of the best gyno surgeons.


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 13:39:18)

stupid question maybe but is that for both nipples?


Roots -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 13:50:05)

yep.

i have looked into it as i have a fairly bad case of pubescent gyno that is mostly in the nipple (goes away to a degree when i am cold etc.)

i would love to get the surgery but just cannot afford it and am not willing to risk NHS after the already terrible expereinces i have had just being consulted about the problem along with the many horror stories on gyno boards.

it does ruin my social life tbh. it rules what i can wear etc. can't make the most of my improving physique.


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 14:05:50)

is there payment plans?


Roots -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 14:07:51)

er... i suppose so, yer i'm sure there is probably that sort of thing on offer tbh.

wouldnt be suitable really for me seen as i am off to uni in sept, that'll be a big enough financial burden itself!


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 14:09:52)

lol... i can imagine!

is gyno one of those things you can claim on your BUPA cover for?
I had the old wang trimmed after a sex accident on BUPA so i'm wondering if they would do this as part of my cover too.

No gyno, just curious for the future


Incredible Bulk -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 14:36:38)

olf but good thread
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1650345/tm.htm


Roots -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 18:38:08)

v good thread, glad to see another doc recomended.

shame pics are gone now


Venom -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 8 2008 19:18:50)

I had gyno develop naturally when i was 13, I was 25 when i had it removed, The surgeon explained that he would cut away what had 'overgrown' but would leave the gland as if he removed it, it would have left a dent under the nipple, 2 years later it returned (not as bad). I am now thinking of having surgery again, this time removing the gland so it never comes back.

For any guys who had the gland removed and now have a dent under the nipple there is a procedure which can inject silicone into the indentation with a syringe that can 'fill' the hole, can't remember whats it called though.


Paracelsus -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 9 2008 0:59:02)


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ORIGINAL: Baile
1. I've heard there is two types of surgery. I'd like to have surgery so the possibility of gyno returning is not possible.


Lipo is for fatty gyno, might work on gland too, not sure, then there's plain surgery.

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2. Will the docs attempt to put me on some type of medication first?


Depends where you live, I don't think in the UK they do, but it would only be a SERM or AI anyway which you already have access too.

quote:


3. Should I be off AAS at the time I notify them, in case blood tests are run, which the AAS would set off?
As well could being on AAS shortly after or during effect the outcome of the surgery results?


They might test you for hormone problems such as high estrogen or low test, so I'd say be completely off cycle and recovered, you could tell them that you use steroids but this might ruin your chances of surgery.

quote:


4. I understand that I should ask for a plastic surgeon and not a regular ER surgeon once the time comes?


I've read this too, but IME I had a standard breast surgeon and they did a damn good job (NHS too, not private).


Baile -> RE: FAO: Gyno Surgery Survivors (May 9 2008 3:53:48)

Some great replies, thanks for that.

The best thing to do then is to let the doc's know and hope they refer me to a surgeon where I could get the specifics.

quote:

Depends where you live, I don't think in the UK they do, but it would only be a SERM or AI anyway which you already have access too.


This is what I was thinking. That they might try and save themselves the cost of surgery and kick me out the door with a SERM or AI for 6 months.

quote:

They might test you for hormone problems such as high estrogen or low test, so I'd say be completely off cycle and recovered, you could tell them that you use steroids but this might ruin your chances of surgery.


Again what I thought. Will wait until after commencing PCT before notifying them about the gyno.

Thanks again all. I'd be glad to hear any more personal experiences. Especially any negative noticeable differences afterwards.

Was expecting to have an indentation afterwards, but after reading the above post possibly it can be avoided.


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