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protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 11:31:38
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Mark D
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hi guys i was just wondering if it is essential to have a protein shake before you go to bed even if you have had a high enough protein intake throughout the day and whether this would affect any cutting result s when you are on a cutting diet.
any help would be most appreciated 
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 11:36:32
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I think if you have ingested your kcal and macronutrient requirments during the day it is not essential to eat anything prior to sleep.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 11:54:33
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Apparently it's supposed to be good to have a protein shake before you go to bed as your body releases growth hormone in your sleep and it's the time your body recovers most/best. Therefore with the aid of the protein shake it can help your body recover and grow .etc. That's what i heared or read somewhere anywayz. I tend to take a protein shake before i sleep on training days but that is maybe because i've not taken quite enough through the day.
But don't take my word for it! xD.. i'm completelly new to all this and have not much a clue about it.. and would like to know what someone with experience in diets nd all has to say about it.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 11:58:50
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Also, you're asleep for about 8 hours, so that's 8 hours without food when you've been eating regularly throughout the day - having something before bed keeps that gap as small as possible.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 12:08:46
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Also, you're asleep for about 8 hours, so that's 8 hours without food when you've been eating regularly throughout the day - having something before bed keeps that gap as small as possible
You liver stores plenty of AA acids to faciliate a positive protein balance over night if it's required. Secondly a large meal, say eaten around 2000, will still be digesting around 0400. Finally you cannot force your body to be 'anabolic' 24 hrs of the day. You phyisology requires peaks and troughs in it's various mechanisms. Hence when intravenous AA are given protein balance drops to baseline after an hour or so.
Is ingesting a meal before bed bad? No. Is it always nessecary of fundementaly important? No. Do I eat before bed? Yes, as it's a good time for me to have some food as part of my total kcal intake. Particulary if I am trying to put weight on and need a high kcal intake.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 12:57:09
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i work an evenng shift so i get home from work about 1 am if i snack before i got to bed its usually only salad stuff becaue i thought if you ingested calories before you sleep they don't get burnt off and as i am trying to cut bodyfat i thought if i took anything with too much calries i may be messing up the cutting diet, thnks for your help guys
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 8 2008 13:34:12
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have some cottage cheese, great before bed
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 9 2008 19:49:28
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thank you for your help
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 9 2008 22:25:00
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if you don't mind me asking what is quark? and as i put earlier in the post would having potein before you go to sleep affect a cutting diet??
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 0:53:34
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quote:
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Also, you're asleep for about 8 hours, so that's 8 hours without food when you've been eating regularly throughout the day - having something before bed keeps that gap as small as possible
You liver stores plenty of AA acids to faciliate a positive protein balance over night if it's required. Secondly a large meal, say eaten around 2000, will still be digesting around 0400. Finally you cannot force your body to be 'anabolic' 24 hrs of the day. You phyisology requires peaks and troughs in it's various mechanisms. Hence when intravenous AA are given protein balance drops to baseline after an hour or so.
Is ingesting a meal before bed bad? No. Is it always nessecary of fundementaly important? No. Do I eat before bed? Yes, as it's a good time for me to have some food as part of my total kcal intake. Particulary if I am trying to put weight on and need a high kcal intake.
Liver doesnt store aminos, the human body cant store any amino acids. We need to eat protein to get the ~10 required aminos.
The liver CAN turn proteins into glucose to fuel the brain in times of "starvation" though.
Meal before bed allows us to keep hunger at bay, helps me sleep better, provides body with protein/aminos to further promote growth and helps reduce the time the body goes without food. A fatty meal before bed to slow digestion or a protein blend of "slow" proteins is nice, alternatively eat mackeral/oily fish or some steak and eggs perhaps.
Its not nessercery, but i think it will prob be benificial. Can we see this progress? Prob not.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 11:26:39
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90mins before bed i have Beef Lean mince with Egg Whites + 1 Yolk, then 10mins before bed a bedtime Extreame shake for a nice slow release of protein thorugh then ight and to bump up the kcal intake.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 12:56:31
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thank you for your help guys i was just paranoid that if i had a protein shake or something else that the extra calories i would be eating before bedtime would not get burnt off and that this would stop me from cutting down bodyfat which is what i am trying to do at the moment
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 14:54:53
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Liver doesnt store aminos, the human body cant store any amino acids. We need to eat protein to get the ~10 required aminos. The stomach stores long-chain proteins (meat, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese) for several hours while they're being broken down into short-chain proteins, so the body indirectly stores AAs in those forms.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 17:50:35
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I'd say it's not only important to have slow protein pre-sleep, but critical.
In contrast to current bb dogma, sleep is our most catabolic time. This catabolism is greatly exacerbated when one consumes a high protein diet, and is even worse when in a Calorie-reduced state.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 17:59:32
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casein is unnecessary
a solid meal is fine
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 18:29:52
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Liver doesnt store aminos, the human body cant store any amino acids. We need to eat protein to get the ~10 required aminos. The stomach stores long-chain proteins (meat, poultry, fish, eggs, cheese) for several hours while they're being broken down into short-chain proteins, so the body indirectly stores AAs in those forms.
Yeah, although i consider that to be digestion. As opposed to us storing carbs, fats, vitamins etc.
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 19:37:56
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thank you guys, the proein shake that i have is nutrisport 90% whey protein isolate which has casein in it aswell will this be ok before bedtime??
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RE: protein shake before bedtime - May 10 2008 19:44:50
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yes that will be fine mate. If you feel hungry during the night you may want to switch to a more solid meal or blend a tub of quark with it
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