Any recommendations for a pre workout shake (taken 30mins before routine) and another taken immediately after.
I generally train before work 7:30am - 9am. Preferably one that can be mixed with milk,

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Sorry, have to ask... Why milk???

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Sorry, have to ask... Why milk???

to answer for him, it contains casein, which is a slow release protein, providing elevated nitrogen levels throughout the workout.
V. good pre workout IMO

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Yeah and they supply it at work so I can mix a shake as soon as i get to the office :)

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But PreWO shakes are not needed if your diet is up to scratch

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But it will be first thing in the morning so it will be a breakfast substitute before training.

wheres carbs then if its pretraining?

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So do you recon not to bother with a pre-shake and eat a carb heavy breakfast instead ?
Im a beginner i should point out !!

Time is a factor first thing in the morning so any recommendations of a quick snack that will do the job ?

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No quick example meal that will do the job ?

Look for 60 grams carbs, 30-40g protein 1 hour before training is usually my protocol. Depends on a lot of things though, so have a read!

porridge and lots of it!

*Eat to grow*

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Sorry, have to ask... Why milk???

to answer for him, it contains casein, which is a slow release protein, providing elevated nitrogen levels throughout the workout.
V. good pre workout IMO

Ahh I see Silly me..

I do question this though... Slow digesting protein Pre WO.. Surely either BCAA or Full Amino's even good old WPC in water on way to gym would be perfect/better?? With a decent complex carb meal an hour prior??

I must admit to using milk in all my shakes years ago, but found I recovered better and looked leaner without it (still consuming same daily calories).

What do you guys favour then Pre WO?? Except pop a couple of effy