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I believe this would actually cause more animosity between members.

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I appreciate how difficult a task it is to Mod such a large forum as MT and your never going to please everyone which ever way you run it.

Personally I'm a fan of the way in which Jack Hammer moderates.

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ORIGINAL: StuB

Hello James, to respond to your question on how the mods run the board I'd like to say that I think you all do a very good job! Unfortunately, you don't get the support from some members who seem incapable of self-moderation of what they post. Even in this thread we have seen some members of the opinion that because this is the internet we should not take offense at what is posted. This is despite the numerous posts in which you and your colleagues have stated that people can and do take offense at what is posted on the internet.

So, even though as Mods you have asked people to be respectful of those who may find some posts offensive or off-putting, there are those that want to argue against it. To that end, I think the easiest way to moderate the board is to simply lock/delete threads as deemed to be appropriate by the Mod concerned. I don't think the Mods should have to justify why a thread is locked/deleted, I'm sure the reason why you and Jason have appointed these mods is because you trust that they will use their discretion when evaluating a thread and because they will enforce the rules that you have both determined to be necessary.

I believe that the Mods do have a duty of care to ALL members of the board and it should not be undermined by a minority who want to treat MuscleTalk as a boys club and will stick two fingers up at anyone who dares to call them to task over their behavior on the forum.

You relaxed the rules on what could be posted, we've now seen that you gave an inch and some members took a mile, so the only way forward is to crack the whip. I can't see any of your loyal members leaving in objection to a hardline of moderation, it'll likely be those who have nothing of real relevance to contribute to the forum and were only here for pub banter.

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ORIGINAL: T0NY

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2) To post in the topic 'Topic reported to a mod, please do not post for now until a moderator has commented' - that would be really helpful.

I believe this would actually cause more animosity between members.

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Otherwise, TONY et al - what are your thoughts on how we (ie mods + loyal members) handle this?

I appreciate how difficult a task it is to Mod such a large forum as MT and your never going to please everyone which ever way you run it.

Personally I'm a fan of the way in which Jack Hammer moderates.

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I think we will toughen up again though - I can feel LMC itching to go....

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ony, there's nothing to stop the posts being reported and a comment from a sensible member in the thread trying to encourage members to post more constructively. No need to say you have reported it at all. Mods never reveal who reports posts.

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ORIGINAL: Neb

Surely more Mods would solve most of the issues?

I don't know what goes into getting new mods and I guess I'm one of the tripe posters many are going on about but sometimes at night for instance, you can go for hours with no mods online.

More mods, maybe just having authority in general, maybe one of the more sensible 'General whores' who are in general more than most would stop any crap in it's tracks?

Just a thought

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ORIGINAL: Neb

Surely more Mods would solve most of the issues?

I don't know what goes into getting new mods and I guess I'm one of the tripe posters many are going on about but sometimes at night for instance, you can go for hours with no mods online.

More mods, maybe just having authority in general, maybe one of the more sensible 'General whores' who are in general more than most would stop any crap in it's tracks?

Just a thought

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ORIGINAL: Neb

maybe not but most the ****e is in general. Many people never stray out of general and are logged in more or less constantly.

More moderation in general would solve a large part of the crap

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LOL there's a bit of a joke on the mod team - drab4 on one end of the spectrum and Jack hammer on the other. Interesting comment...

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ORIGINAL: Neb

look chap, it was merely a suggestion.

I apologise

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LOL there's a bit of a joke on the mod team - drab4 on one end of the spectrum and Jack hammer on the other. Interesting comment...

It must be a very tricky one to get right, and I have every sympathy for you and your team. Every time this comes up there shows a clear divide between those who want very strict moderation and those that don't. Personally, with reference to the above quote I prefer Drab's moderation - to me I think he has the balance exactly right. But then, that's the balance accordingly to me and obviously not others! That's not to say that I'm not in favour of slapping a few wrists (metaphorically speaking of course) if necessary - there are quite clearly those here that just post to take the piss or create friction. I agree with others that you are probably understaffed in the mod department at the moment, but then I equally appreciate that you can't just grab perfect mods out of thin air.

I also agree that people need to be encouraged to use the 'report a post' function more when appropriate. One quick query about that though: I've used it a few times and the way the software appears to work is that it randomly chooses a mod. I've had my reports go to 'MuscleTalk Message' before now, or a mod that has been on holiday - do all mods get to see the report or just the person the report was sent to? If it's the latter it might not be quite so effective as described above.

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all the mods can view the ticket list and reports...

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ORIGINAL: erekose

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LOL there's a bit of a joke on the mod team - drab4 on one end of the spectrum and Jack hammer on the other. Interesting comment...

It must be a very tricky one to get right, and I have every sympathy for you and your team. Every time this comes up there shows a clear divide between those who want very strict moderation and those that don't. Personally, with reference to the above quote I prefer Drab's moderation - to me I think he has the balance exactly right. But then, that's the balance accordingly to me and obviously not others! That's not to say that I'm not in favour of slapping a few wrists (metaphorically speaking of course) if necessary - there are quite clearly those here that just post to take the piss or create friction. I agree with others that you are probably understaffed in the mod department at the moment, but then I equally appreciate that you can't just grab perfect mods out of thin air.

I also agree that people need to be encouraged to use the 'report a post' function more when appropriate. One quick query about that though: I've used it a few times and the way the software appears to work is that it randomly chooses a mod. I've had my reports go to 'MuscleTalk Message' before now, or a mod that has been on holiday - do all mods get to see the report or just the person the report was sent to? If it's the latter it might not be quite so effective as described above.