Prop pain is a myth? Yeah that's what I told myself when I decided to take it as part of my second cycle. I told myself that the pain was all internet hype, people exagerating and other people just being pussies!!!

I wanted to include prop as my choice of TEST cos I figured I would be able to do more cycles in a year because there is not the waste of time on cycle when you are waiting for levels to build up and then leave your system at the end, hence the cycles are probly 4 weeks shorter.


Oh my word, HOW WRONG WAS I !!!!!!!!!!


So for anybody thinking about prop, you might like to read the short summery of the pain just as something to consider as part of your decision making process.


My first four weeks on prop were a nightmare, primarily I was using quads and glutes, after 24 to 48 hours after injecting the pain at injection site reached its top. At first I thought it was funny and all part of the crack! But after four weeks the following it really started to get me down:

1. Hobbling around
2. Not being able to do squats properly
3. Seriously struggling to put socks, pants and trousers on due to pain and lack of flexability movement in glutes/quads
4. Struggling to lower myself on and off the toilet.
5. Struggling to get on and off chairs
6. Struggling to get in and out of my car.
7. Being unable to navigate stairs - having to take one step at a time and holding onto the rail where available


Things got REALLY BAD!!!!!! when:

1. I decided to pin my Delt - I couldnt sleep one night because of the pain.

2. I decided to pin my TRAP - OWWCH!!!!!!!!!!! - THIS IS NOW !!!! I am in facking agony!!!!! days 2 and 3 after injection day are almost unbearable. I have had to take pain killers to sleep, I have just spent half the day walking round the office in extreme pain looking like a right nob with my arm immobile slapped to my chest like it was in a sling. People (those who dont "know") asking me what have I done , and me having to say I pulled my trap and upper back in the gym. THINGS were soooo BAD, that I couldn't take it anymore and had to GO HOME HALF DAY ON THE SICK!!!!!

I am going to finish my cycle (maybe get some pharma grade -mmaybe make things easier)but will never be using prop in a hurry again (unless maybe pharma grade)!!!!!!! But will MOST DEFINATELY not be injecting the stuff into my TRAP!!!!

get the violin out

feel ya pal. been there and it's ****ing painful. it's a shame coz prop is a great sted. i did things which did minimize the pain quite significantly sometimes such as having a hot shower, heating the vial etc.

Current stats:
6 foot; 14 stone

Bench press: 8 x 115kg
Squat: 8 x 120kg
DB shoulder press: 8 x 36kg

not had any pain whatsoever with prop, unlucky fella lol

Yeah, it is a shame, your right - it is a good med - Ive had not bad results so far. However I suppose its all about the learning curve, and learning from experiences.

lol, been there done it,

change and play around with other props and find one that doesn't put you in agony.

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Status: online not had any pain whatsoever with prop, unlucky fella lol

You jammy git!!! HA HA

Clp prop has been pain free for me

Tell us, WHAT BRAND OF PROP WAS THAT MAN? That's gto me cowering in a pool of my own pi55, mutering to myself 'prop pain, never, never, prop pain'!!

Nothing contributes so much to tranquilizing the mind as a steady purpose - a point on which the soul may fix its intellectual eye.

It was an international underground lab. I dont want to name it bcos it will seem like I am slating/ knocking the brand, and I dont think its aprob with the company, just think some prop causes some people much pain!! Just luck of how your body responds to different gear etc maybe.

If you havent tried prop yet and are going to - just be prepared for the worst, just in case

what concentration was it?

there was a reason that pharma prop came in 50mg/ml

rotor cuffs are a nightmare society founding member

The only prop i've used is zenik stuff and it was painless.

I'll be trying wildcat stuff soon apparently that's painless too.

Tut, typical man!
Test prop is the test prefered by girls pmsl.
Im sickenly becomin more and more attracted to prop, excruciatin pain, ridiculously high libido... Ah but havin to shave my face everyday is enuf to put me off.
I wish you a speedy recovery darling Hahaha

im with ya there fella gets to me to..

just cut it with somethiing with more oil..

helps me

steroids dont make champions. they just make champions in to better champions.

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anybody have an idea why it hurts sometime, could it be because what ur injecting is dangerous, fake or not that steril ?

well known UGL still sell real stuf, some better than other but the fact that some hurt should be a reason good enough to stop it ???
thanks

you can cut test prop with sterile oil , 1ml of sterile oil for 1 ml of test prop. I use sterile grape seed oil and it works every time.

My ass swells up after a sust jab! takes bout 5 days for the lump to go down.

Seems to vary from person to person

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anybody have an idea why it hurts sometime, could it be because what ur injecting is dangerous, fake or not that steril ?

well known UGL still sell real stuf, some better than other but the fact that some hurt should be a reason good enough to stop it ???
thanks

Your answer lies with comparing pharma prop to UGL prop:

Pharma prop = never over 50mg/ml
UGL prop usually minimum 100mg/ml

Prop has a very high melting point and thus is not nearly as soluble in oil as things like test enanthate etc. Even tren acetate (acetate being shorter ester than propionate) is more lipid soluble (ie. dissolves better and easier in oil) than test prop. Just the nature of the compound but generally shorter esters = less solubility. Thus by dissolving 100mg of test prop per ml, just using BA, BB and oil, you are just reaching the saturation point of prop - this can be adjusted a bit by adding more BA and BB so you can dissolve more. However, the solvents like BA especially and BB will once in the body be absorbed out of solution much more quickly so if your test prop preparation is relying on some of these solvents to stay in solution, they leech out of the muscle leaving prop behind at a high concentration which will form crystals, which = PAIN in muscle where crystallisation occurs. These crystals will break down slowly over time, thus a bit of time for pain to go.

Certain oils and solvents such as ethyl oleate can be used which increase the solubility of the hormone and "stay" with the hormone in the muscle and do not leech out like BA and BB do. EO is more expensive than oil and not often used in UG lab preps, although even Farmak prop which is pharma and uses EO as a carrier is STILL only 50mg/ml IIRC!

mcl

It was CLP that was painless for me, 100mg/ml