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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 18:42:35
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samcim
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Off topic sorry but: mick_the_brick YGM mate, did you get it?
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 18:58:58
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Genics
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why i never use prop or anything containing prop! no point when you cant move after jabbing it.
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 19:48:50
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Papa Lazarou
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Prop doesn't bother me one jot. Running it now. Funny how painful it is for some folk but not others
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 19:57:13
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ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover quote:
ORIGINAL: mado01a anybody have an idea why it hurts sometime, could it be because what ur injecting is dangerous, fake or not that steril ? well known UGL still sell real stuf, some better than other but the fact that some hurt should be a reason good enough to stop it ??? thanks Your answer lies with comparing pharma prop to UGL prop: Pharma prop = never over 50mg/ml UGL prop usually minimum 100mg/ml Prop has a very high melting point and thus is not nearly as soluble in oil as things like test enanthate etc. Even tren acetate (acetate being shorter ester than propionate) is more lipid soluble (ie. dissolves better and easier in oil) than test prop. Just the nature of the compound but generally shorter esters = less solubility. Thus by dissolving 100mg of test prop per ml, just using BA, BB and oil, you are just reaching the saturation point of prop - this can be adjusted a bit by adding more BA and BB so you can dissolve more. However, the solvents like BA especially and BB will once in the body be absorbed out of solution much more quickly so if your test prop preparation is relying on some of these solvents to stay in solution, they leech out of the muscle leaving prop behind at a high concentration which will form crystals, which = PAIN in muscle where crystallisation occurs. These crystals will break down slowly over time, thus a bit of time for pain to go. Certain oils and solvents such as ethyl oleate can be used which increase the solubility of the hormone and "stay" with the hormone in the muscle and do not leech out like BA and BB do. EO is more expensive than oil and not often used in UG lab preps, although even Farmak prop which is pharma and uses EO as a carrier is STILL only 50mg/ml IIRC! mcl good post, well said.
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 20:09:14
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Genics
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nothign quite hurts like crashed crystallized gear in your muscles..especially if you have ever done the doors on a cold night..very very painfull!
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 20:24:05
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Papa Lazarou
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Thing is tho IMO EO aint something you really want large amounts in you tho.
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 22:22:30
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malph3
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dazc Pro-Member Status: online what concentration was it? there was a reason that pharma prop came in 50mg/ml I know im a bit late getting back on and the thread has run its course, but out of courtesy - the prop was dosed at 100mg per ml
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 9 2008 22:28:13
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mad_cereal_lover
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ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou Thing is tho IMO EO aint something you really want large amounts in you tho. This could be argued yes, but same could be argued of BB and also begs the question why does a pharamceutical fully licensed company make injectable products with EO? Just food for thought, but I don't personally believe lots of any solvent is good for you! I do believe though that AAS abuse is worse for your health. mcl
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RE: Prop is a BIYATCH!!!!!!! - May 10 2008 13:40:26
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Gouldmiste
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Hiya Prop pain is no myth! good lord! Im doing 500mg sust EW , did front of 1g! jesus christ ! , i respond well to gear! but with the prop i couldnt sit down, i couldnt drive my car, workouts in the gym became horrible and really painful , all gone now tho and loving the Gains.
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