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Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 9 2008 8:36:56
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EL GAUCHO
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Here are notes that someone posted that he took during a Charles Poliquin fat loss seminar. As some of you may know, Charles is one of the most respected strength coaches in the world. Also keep in mind these are only that persons notes and they may not be 100% accurate, but most of it does fall in line with what I have heard Charles write.
Charles has some strong ideas, some a little off the wall, but its good stuff which we sould implement in our own diets and training......
What I learned at the Charles Poliquin Fat Loss Seminar
By Nathan Donahue
These are the notes that I took from the Charles Poliquin Seminar that I attended on November 13, 2005.
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If over 10% body fat for a man, or over 15-20% for a woman, you are fat.
The stronger your immune system, the easier it is to gain muscle and lose fat.
The more insulin you produce, the faster you age.
The best predictor of lifespan is muscle mass and strength
Supplements
Omega 3 Fatty Acids from pharmaceutical grade fish oils are the most valuable supplement you can take. The subject should take 15g/day for two weeks if deficient, then reduce the dosage to 5g/day indefinitely after that. Fish oils will help burn fat and prevent fat gain. They improve serotonin levels (mood), make it easier to move nutrients in and out of cell walls, reduce joint inflammation, decrease the amount of sugar your body will absorb, improves blood pressure and decrease insulin output when taken with a meal. You should take it throughout the day and rotate your source of EFA’s every 10 days. Krill Oil is the best source as it also eliminates PMS and you don’t need high doses of this type of oil.
(Note from Mike Mahler: For an alternative to Fish Oil, I recommend Udo's Choice Oil With DHA. You can get it at Whole Food's and most health food stores)
Fat people should not consume carbs post-workout. The best Post workout drink for a 200lb overweight man is: Whey Isolate 60g +
Glutamine 20-80g + Glycine 20g. This will replenish glycogen while preventing fat gain.
Licorice Root Cream can be rubbed on the abdominal as it will aid in burning fat from the stomach. The trade name is called Glycgel.
Adaptogens such as Red Korean Ginseng can help you recuperate from stress and tough workouts. Rhodiola Rosea is a very powerful adaptogen; take it when you need energy. It is a Cortisol Modulator, meaning that if your cortisol is too low it will help you raise it and if too high, it will help you lower it. Take only 1 tab per day, as it is very potent. Stevia is a natural sweetener and a great adrenal recovery aid. Cold Fx is also a surprisingly good product. It is good for adrenaline glands, fat loss, decreasing insulin output, and regenerates the pancreas.
To help men raise testosterone Charles recommends the following. Zinc is low in all active men and plays an important role in test production. Zinc arginic is best, no more than 30mg/day. Holy Basil (supplement that is available at www.charlespoliquin.com also helps raise testosterone.
As for estrogen, DIM is a strong anti-estrogen that specifically targets the bad estrogens caused by phyto-estrogens in our environment.
R-ALA is anabolic and promotes fat burning, only the R for is good, the S form of ALA is counter productive. It is an anti-oxidant that also
promotes glucose transport into muscle cells. As well it Increases the metabolic rate and decreases insulin output.
Acetyl-L-Carnitine is a healthy stimulant; it also improves memory and is anti-aging for the brain. It too increases insulin sensitivity.
Charles recommends that one uses a good multi-vitamin when attempting to lose fat as fat loss releases toxins that are stored in your
fat and your body will need all the vitamins and minerals it can get to fight these toxins.
Estrogen “16” is a bad form of estrogen in our bodies that we want to eliminate, supplements that combat estrogen “16” are Broccoli extract,
DIM and Green Tea
Taurine is an amino acid that increases insulin sensitivity, increases cell communication, and increase carb metabolism.
Magnesium Chelates are the key to preventing diabetes; everyone who is active is deficient in it, and it is this deficiency that creates
diabetes. Magnesium also increases insulin sensitivity. One should Rotate the types of Mag, just make sure they all end in “ate”. Take it
after 4:00pm, as it will improve your sleep.
All stimulants raise cortisol, which is bad so use them sensibly. As for the fat burning supplement ephedrine, you do not need much
ephedrine (8mg) to stimulate fat burning.
If asparagus makes your urine smell you are deficient in Vitamin B9 and B12. Taking these B vitamins will help prevent Alzheimer’s
Training
High intensity interval training burns more calories overall than long slow cardio. The bulk of these calories are burned post exercise.Intervals should consist of 40 sec – 2 min on, and 1 minute off. These sessions should last a max of 42 minutes total including warm-up. The bad news is that the workouts must be very intense, as the subject must get to nausea in order to produce enough lactic acid. Luckily 2 sessions per week is all that is needed to lose fat at a noticeable rate. The catch is that velocity without resistance is useless, so going really fast is not the answer. Working really hard against resistance is the solution.
Continuous aerobic work (long jogs) raises cortisol, which in turn makes you fatter in the long run. So don’t bother doing it unless it is
sport specific training.
For strength training, vary the program every 25 days; everything works, but only for a short time. Vary the exercises often so you overload the muscles at different points. You must surprise the muscles with something new in order to force it to adapt. Other possible changes include rest time, muscle grouping, tempo, etc.
Diet
Approximately 75% of people are carb intolerant and should not be eating grains; the grains are getting people fat. The first step is to get the Omega 3’s in balance by taking hi-quality fish oils. You must eat protein with every meal even breakfast. A meat and nut breakfast will make you leaner even if you do not change the rest of your diet. It is best if you rotate the meat each breakfast. Eat 6-7 meals per day with protein plus smart fats in every meal.
A long-term low carbohydrate diet is the solution for fat people even after they have lost the fat. To begin the diet, eat only meat, fish, eggs, cheese and vegetables (50g of carbs per day or less). Follow this diet for 14 days then have a cheat day, eat whatever you want for the entire day. Return to the ultra low carb diet and have a cheat meal (one sitting) every 4th or 5th day.
Once you are starting to lean out you can add berries to the diet. They are strong antioxidants and low glycemic.As you get leaner still you can introduce the Orange family of fruits. As you get leaner again you can add Plums, nectarines, peaches and apples. Then grapes and bananas. Then the root vegetables such as yams, and sweet potatoes. Then rice, the darker the better The last food to add is grains, and it should never be added for those that are carb intolerant. (If eating carbs made you fat) A no or low gluten diet is a good thing, it interferes with reaction time. Stick with this diet 80% of the time and you will do fine and not stressed out by it. Eat more vegetables.
Do not eat Peanut Butter, even the natural kind; it contains a mould that has phyto-estrogens in it.
Fructose syrup is the most fattening food we know of and it ages you must avoid it at all costs.
Have your cheat meal late in the day instead of early when you are likely to keep eating bad the rest of the day. The best cheat meals
have some nutritional value
Fatty foods have a reputation for causing bad health but it is carbs that raise cholesterol and bad blood lipids.
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 9 2008 8:39:09
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Question: anyone know where we can get Glycgel here in the U.K?
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 9 2008 9:21:19
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Sounds a bit of a farce that he claims you can spot reduce fat.
Some interesting points though - thanks for posting bud.
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 9 2008 13:05:13
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Some interesting points. Thanks for the info
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 9 2008 21:11:18
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Targex....ok I'll look for that...don't suppose you know of a supplier shipping to the UK?
About spot reduction....I hear you AK....but I guess we're talking about reducing water in certain areas, which is certainly possible?
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 10 2008 17:02:08
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Very interesting read. Cheers mate 
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 10 2008 19:03:04
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Thanks for posting mate v. interesting
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 10 2008 19:04:42
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quote:
but I guess we're talking about reducing water in certain areas, which is certainly possible?
preparation H and carb depletion and dry loading may help
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TargeX
Glycyrrhetinic acid is the primary ingredient in Targex. It is actually found in licorice, and when applied to the skin, can reduce the thickness of subcutaneous fat. In this case, the mechanism of action is mediated by the catabolic hormone known as cortisol. This hormone is involved in both the distribution as well as the deposition of fat.Cortisol, in turn is regulated by the activity of an enzyme which Glycyrrhetinic acid (the active ingredient in Targex) blocks. This reduces the ability of cortisol to regulate fat cells, resulting in an overall loss of bodyfat to the area the cream is applied to.
In a clinical study, the effect of topical Glycyrrhetinic cream was evaluated. In this study, measurements of thigh fat, before and after 1 month of treatment with the cream were taken. In both areas (circumference and the fat layer thickness) the thighs receiving the cream had significantly lower levels of fat.
Hence, this type of cream would appear to be a potent lipolytic (fat burning) agent. Also, it is important to note that this compound is very safe, as the full study mentioned previously states that that there was absolutely no change in plasma cortisol, blood pressure, or aldosterone.
The primary ingredient in that study (Glycyrrhetinic acid) is also the primary ingredient found in Targex this is actually the brand name of the original version of these types of products. Typically it is applied to specific sites, to produce localized fat-loss wherever it is applied. The typical Targex user has experienced significant reductions in body fat when it was applied to site-specific areas, and was used in combination with a proper diet, training, and cardio.
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 10 2008 20:19:53
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can u explain dry loading please mate?
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 11 2008 16:13:56
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Jesus I love on peanut butter, have it most days at breakfast :(
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 11 2008 16:50:31
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Is targex a prescription drug?
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 12 2008 8:17:23
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Is 8mg of eph really enough?
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 12 2008 9:25:45
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I would say it's enough...there's only one way to find out....try it!
As long as it's properly stacked with Caffeine and Aspirin, you can minimise the side effects of Ephedrine.
Targex.....I still can't find it here in the UK.
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 12 2008 15:04:58
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Nice post bud
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RE: Notes from Fat Loss Seminar.... - May 12 2008 23:08:46
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Training
High intensity interval training burns more calories overall than long slow cardio. The bulk of these calories are burned post exercise.Intervals should consist of 40 sec – 2 min on, and 1 minute off. These sessions should last a max of 42 minutes total including warm-up. The bad news is that the workouts must be very intense, as the subject must get to nausea in order to produce enough lactic acid. Luckily 2 sessions per week is all that is needed to lose fat at a noticeable rate. The catch is that velocity without resistance is useless, so going really fast is not the answer. Working really hard against resistance is the solution.
Continuous aerobic work (long jogs) raises cortisol, which in turn makes you fatter in the long run. So don’t bother doing it unless it is
sport specific training.
wow complete contradiction to lyle mcdonald there!!
who do i believe??????
my head hurts 
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