hi, i have been reading up on this product (m 5aa) and i am told it converts to dht in body giving a hard vascular look and it has good anti estrogen values too. with this in mind would the product need a PCT, i have not found anywere were it says that the product shuts down natural test production so therefore does it require PCT ?
i was going to use this product at 20mg a day along with 3 tabs of cissus drol while on a cutting cycle (dropping carbs down but protien high), do you think staking these product would help on a cut ?

main question though is does it require a pct, does it shut you down and affect labido !!!

if it does require a pct would a OTC pct product suffice or does it need nolva ?

any help appreciated guys :)

Height : 5'11"
Weight : 210 Lbs

Training 5 x 5 reps

Squat : 220 kg
Bench : 115 kg
Deadlift 180 kg
Shoulder press : 85 kgs

I've used STS646, which is methylated-DHT (the target hormone of m-5aa). Libido was good throughout, always worth taking a cap pre-workout in particular as its great for strength. I did do a pct, I would guess it will cause shutdown but I have no scientific backing for that and as nolva is so cheap I'd see no reason not to run a 3 week pct.

I think it'd be great for a cut used by itself at 30mg ed and use cissus drol alongside nolva for pct to carry on the cut another month.

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As celt said, I've also ran mdht in the form of methyl-rage, and it was fantastic as a pre-workout booster.

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Iv been using this for a few days now Hodgey at 50mg per day and it does give a nice boost pre work out. I also plan on upping to 10 caps per day for the last 8 days of my present cycle too.

You will need liver protection as meth product but as for pct Im not too sure tbh. I would have read around it more but as an extra to my cycle I will be using pct anyway.

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unrelated, but firest0rm.....I sent you an email (through MT) a day or two ago. It may be in your junk. Would appreciate it if you could reply. Thanks

Apologies, gmail snatched your email! I've just replied.

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As m5aa converts to dht has anyone who's used it suffered from hair loss while on it?

Not yet but if I do I will cry cause my hairdoo rocks lol!!!!

But Meat has promised me a wig if this happens so not all bad.

On a serious note you are right this would prob be one of the worst products to take if you were prone to mpb but I do feel it is a little over played as I have never come across anyone who has said they completed a cycle of x and that all there hair has fallen out. I think it just speeds the process up i.e. if you were due to go bald at 35 maybe you will go bold at 32.

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am going to run M 5aa at 30mg a day for 4 weeks with 3 tabs of cissus drol also while i am on cut trying to lose a few pounds of fat while keeping and maybe adding some muscle.
will do a pct following cycle just to be safe anyways

Height : 5'11"
Weight : 210 Lbs

Training 5 x 5 reps

Squat : 220 kg
Bench : 115 kg
Deadlift 180 kg
Shoulder press : 85 kgs

Can anyone explain why the doseage of M5AA is so low? Surely 30-40mg only converts at most 50% to MDHT - whereas when people take MDHT (methly rage for example) they usually dose at at least 50mg. Unless the conversion rate of M5AA is very very high? Or perhaps m5aa before conversion to MDHT is androgenic itself, much like 4-AD which acts as an androgen even before it converts to test. Anyone?

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Can anyone explain why the doseage of M5AA is so low? Surely 30-40mg only converts at most 50% to MDHT - whereas when people take MDHT (methly rage for example) they usually dose at at least 50mg. Unless the conversion rate of M5AA is very very high? Or perhaps m5aa before conversion to MDHT is androgenic itself, much like 4-AD which acts as an androgen even before it converts to test. Anyone?

I think the conversion is pretty high. Most people seem to get a similar effect mg for mg between the two compounds.

Iv been using this for a few days now Hodgey at 50mg per day and it does give a nice boost pre work out. I also plan on upping to 10 caps per day for the last 8 days of my present cycle too.

Taz you fcuking mentalist, lol. keep an eye on your moods mate, i went up to 150mg methyl rage and it really tipped me towards being a right angry fcuker. lol

 

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remember this is pure dht we are talking about! very strong stuff i also find m5aa and straight mdht pretty comparible mg for mg.

Lol hey Stav hows tricks?

Will do bud. Lmao at 150mg ed how long did you run it at that for? Do you think the diuretic effects are better when at a higher dose of M5-AA like Porv?

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Lol hey Stav hows tricks?

Will do bud. Lmao at 150mg ed how long did you run it at that for? Do you think the diuretic effects are better when at a higher dose of M5-AA like Porv?

for a couple of weeks till my missus told me i was being a twat. lol. I cut my cycle short and she said i was back to normal within a day or two.

i dont know about the diuretic effect, it was a while ago now. i know my strength was up nicely though.

just a shame i was a lightweight and couldnt handle me juice.

 

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just a shame i was a lightweight and couldnt handle me juice.

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been on the m-5aa and cissus d cycle for a week today and i must say agression in gym is emense ! matched my PB bench today 110kgs for 6 reps and i seem to be a bit more vascular, veins popping out here and there were i never noticed before. gettig great pumps in gym during and after workout too. best thing about this product is my labido is not crashing like it has on previous PH/PS cycles i have done, big bonus for me

Height : 5'11"
Weight : 210 Lbs

Training 5 x 5 reps

Squat : 220 kg
Bench : 115 kg
Deadlift 180 kg
Shoulder press : 85 kgs

Anyone know where this (M-5AA) is still available?

ORIGINAL: Celt

I've used STS646, which is methylated-DHT (the target hormone of m-5aa).

I loved STS646. Great strength gain's and focus in the gym would deffently use it again or simller. (Bastard too find now)

can someone pls send me a pm telling me where this stuff isstill for sale!

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can someone pls send me a pm telling me where this stuff isstill for sale!

You and me both mate, I think we may have missed the boat.