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why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:32:42
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whay are steroids illegal?
cause from what i can see, if you take sensible doses, do pct, take time off between cycles there shouldnt really be much problems.
i know if you abuse it you can get problems, but thats the same as alcohol and thats not illegal.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:35:28
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They are legal to posess for personal use in the U.K.
They are illegal to sell or supply.
Legality and potential for harm/abuse are two very different things and as you mention can be totally uncorrelated
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:40:57
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They're illegal because our government can't discern between things that have a negative effect on society and things that dont. (although I'm of the opinion that no drugs should be illegal to use, but im talking from the government's perspective)
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:44:24
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its funny before i started to reserch AAS, i was always under the impression that they were so bad for you and havent really found any info to back this up.
think i must of thought that due to parents, other people and the media saying that they are. but where do they get there information from that there bad for you?
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:47:39
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well yes but if you judge on ignorant people's opinions then of course you'll have a skewed view.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:56:14
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im just glad i reserched them and found out for my self.
its one of those things you cant tell people either or else they will just brand you as a junkie.
funny how society frowns upon some one that looks after them self and uses a bit of juice to improve.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 10:56:59
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They're illegal because our government can't discern between things that have a negative effect on society and things that dont. (although I'm of the opinion that no drugs should be illegal to use, but im talking from the government's perspective)
To be fair to them that's not quite how it works. They were originally classified as controlled medicines not simply because they were steroids but because they were available only on prescription - the same situation as countless other drugs. Originally there was no distinction between, say, Sustanon and penicillin - both were /are only available on prescription only in the UK, but can be legally possessed.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 11:08:09
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I think steroids are frownedd upon due to the effect it can have, imagine if steroids were legal and like cigarettes in the UK, kids willbe taking them, overdosing, roid rag would occur, fights breaking out etc, kids with huge muscles thinking theyre the man etc, the UK would be corrupt
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 11:12:14
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kids willbe taking them
They already do, which is why the issue is attracting more attention in the media nowadays. It could conceivably become a public health issue in time.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 11:14:31
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I think steroids are frownedd upon due to the effect it can have, imagine if steroids were legal and like cigarettes in the UK, kids willbe taking them, overdosing, roid rag would occur, fights breaking out etc, kids with huge muscles thinking theyre the man etc, the UK would be corrupt
Being Illegal doesn't stop people taking drugs, so kids if they so chose to could take steroids and i'm sure there are some who do.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 11:15:47
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They're illegal because our government can't discern between things that have a negative effect on society and things that dont. (although I'm of the opinion that no drugs should be illegal to use, but im talking from the government's perspective)
To be fair to them that's not quite how it works. They were originally classified as controlled medicines not simply because they were steroids but because they were available only on prescription - the same situation as countless other drugs. Originally there was no distinction between, say, Sustanon and penicillin - both were /are only available on prescription only in the UK, but can be legally possessed.
yes but he's talking about the illegality not the distiction of legal classes
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 11:38:26
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yes but he's talking about the illegality not the distiction of legal classes
I'm not sure I'm with you there - forgive me I still have a nasty case of prop flu 
As PB states above they are not really illegal, unless of course you try to sell them (or even give them away for that matter). Therefore as I said above they fall into the same broad category as a great many prescription drugs.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 12:31:57
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It's a good question - why, exactly, are they illegal?
As mentioned above, they were originally classified under the Medicines Act and simply required a prescription.
A Bill was passed in the House of Commons, tabled by Menzies Campbell, for their ascension to Class C classification. AFAIK, it went through unopposed and without any form of Drug Committee recommendation, acceeded through the House of Lords and onto the Statute "books".
The reason for their classification was never highlighted at the time.
But, looking at them, they are a synthetic version/derivative of a naturally-occuring hormone, which is actually present in both male and female persons.
I view the classification of them as unfair when compared to the non-classification of estrogen and progesterone in the form of the contraceptive pill.
The pill is not without its own risks and has been linked to blood clots and premature deaths in the past - in fact, I'd wager it has been responsible for more serious side effects than anabolic steroids used at a sensible dose.
But, the pill doesn't make you big and anabolics can do, and that, I feel, is the whole reason for their initial classification.
It will be interesting to see if anabolic steroids are moved on to a Class B drug - the medical review committees which sit and offer advice to the government will have no crime-related argument, nor health related argument to propose reclassification and, I'm pretty sure, will recommend they stay as a Class C drug.
However, they have just recommended that cannabis remain Class C but have been ignored by the government, which will now push weed to Class B, regardless of the recommendations of the expert panel they employed to advise them on the matter.
I feel Labour, should it remain in power, with its meddling attitude to individual freedom, will push steroids, in time, to Class B with no evidence for the need to do whatsoever.
Why are they illegal? I really have no idea aside from politicians fearing they could create big people.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 12:37:49
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and i am happy they are, because i cant get bigger and stronger than most people and kick their ass when needed !!!
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 13:04:49
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anybody knows how ''ilegal'' they are in belgium ? a mod perhaps ?
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 13:36:00
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yes but he's talking about the illegality not the distiction of legal classes
I'm not sure I'm with you there - forgive me I still have a nasty case of prop flu
As PB states above they are not really illegal, unless of course you try to sell them (or even give them away for that matter). Therefore as I said above they fall into the same broad category as a great many prescription drugs.
haha okay mate. well he was asking why they're illegal, which i took to reference the distribution/bulk supply etc thereof. That was what i was addressing
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 14:27:50
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I actually think that the government play it well in terms of AASs.
They allow you to import them, and they are legal to possess. My friend had some orals on him when he was searched by a police officer, and when the police officer found out they weren't ecstasy, he let my friend keep them because IMO he couldn't be arsed filing a report and doing the relevant bureaucracy.
Steroids can be incredibly dangerous, eg Clen and Slin, but like any drug, they are safe when used correctly. TBH I think it may would more dangerous OD'ing on paracetamol than test.
There is a big difference between steroid use and steroid abuse.
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RE: why are steroids illegal? - May 9 2008 15:44:17
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TBH I think it may would more dangerous OD'ing on paracetamol than test.
Absolutely right, paracetamol overdose can be lethal. It's 'goodbye liver'
If you remember there were controls placed on the sale of paracetamol some years back limiting the pack size.
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