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Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 11:53:20
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andy1082
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Waht is a good pre-workout shake and are they worth using??
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 15:04:22
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pre workout shake- 75g oats, 50g Whey. Does the job and costs nothing
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 15:28:15
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I have chicken Pasta veg 1 hour before and Oats 40mins before then 10mins before Whey dex shake drink half and sip on half throught workout.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 15:36:37
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As I train in the morning I have oats and whey for my breakfast and sip half of a dex and whey shake during my session, the other half I polish off PWO after stretching
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 17:52:18
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Pre-workout protein shakes are the most anabolic (think growth and recovery) supplemental/nutritional practice we have. It's always best to start with half volume and work your way up from there.
Let us know how it goes!
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 17:59:13
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DV and David, i train early in the morning also and approx 1 hour before i have oats or weetabix plus 40g whey / eggs.
Would it be a good idea to have a shake of dex/whey just before i train, for example half just before training and then sip on the rest throughout my workout.
As i train early i do sometimes still feel realatively tired when i get to the gym and i allways have in the back of my mind that the food ive eaten before i train has not digested enough to fuel my workout.
any thoughts? 
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 18:06:50
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DV and David, i train early in the morning also and approx 1 hour before i have oats or weetabix plus 40g whey / eggs.
Would it be a good idea to have a shake of dex/whey just before i train, for example half just before training and then sip on the rest throughout my workout.
As i train early i do sometimes still feel realatively tired when i get to the gym and i allways have in the back of my mind that the food ive eaten before i train has not digested enough to fuel my workout.
any thoughts?
That's almost what I do apart from, I sip half the whey and dex thru-out and finish the rest of PWO (rather than half pre and the rest during)
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 18:08:16
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Rio
whey
banana
2 weetabix
milk
that should get you going mate as its a blend of slow and fast carbs. Have this an hour before hitting the iron
Also a good strong black coffee half an hour before will help loads
cheers Tio, 
And DV
Prob give both a whirl and see how i get on.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 18:11:47
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Any different/better than chicken and sweet potato?
Absolutely. Although the solid meal is lower maintenance (and no doubt more enjoyable to consume), the protein pulse we get from a whey drink is far more anabolic. Additionally, such a drink stimulates muscle blood flow to a greater extent than any other supplement we know of. The enhanced nutrient delivery adds to the growth and recovery effect.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 18:13:31
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Rio I wouldn't have a pre-workout shake in your case because the food from your previous meal will still be digesting.
I also like the sound of coffee in the morning. I don't know how you guys train early without it.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 9 2008 18:47:40
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Rio I wouldn't have a pre-workout shake in your case because the food from your previous meal will still be digesting.
I also like the sound of coffee in the morning. I don't know how you guys train early without it.
Thanks David
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 10 2008 17:43:47
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theiopener, it's funny but it seems as though whenever you ask questions I immediately think that I need to write an article about that topic. Come to think of it, that must say something quite positive about the level of questions you ask.
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The solid meal would be lower maintenance because it's slow digesting/absorbing protein. We don't have to worry about a catabolic protein crash in the same way we do with whey.
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Could you elaborate more please. What do you mean by lower maintenance?
You're exactly right about the protein pulse.
This is anabolically superior to a steady influx of amino acids which will induce a state of protein resistance. It's as though our muscle gets used to the amino acids and decreases the subsequent anabolic response to them.
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What is a protein pulse, are you referring to the rapid rise of aminos into the bloodstream? If so why is it beneficial to have whey over a solid protein source that provides a more constant flow of aminos?
Amino acid delivery to muscle is part of the anabolic response of pre-workout meals. This is caused by an increase in insulin from the meal, which in turn elevates muscle blood flow.
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Can you expand on the enhanced nutrient and delivery as i really dont understand that bit
I'm certain that I've opened more than one can of worms here. This is farther than I've gone with any of my articles yet, outside of the books, and there are literally several articles that can (and WILL) be written about each concept.
The first such article will be submitted in a day or two, which I think will answer many ensuing questions.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 13 2008 4:55:36
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Look Forward to the article dave,
any research backing this? you do make some bold claims in your posts.
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 13 2008 10:05:18
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theiopener, it's funny but it seems as though whenever you ask questions I immediately think that I need to write an article about that topic. Come to think of it, that must say something quite positive about the level of questions you ask.
hehehe thanks. Im just your resident weirdo who has a interest in nutrition and keeping things as simple as possible 
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The solid meal would be lower maintenance because it's slow digesting/absorbing protein. We don't have to worry about a catabolic protein crash in the same way we do with whey .
Ok in that case why have whey at all, why not just eat solid food and we will never really experience a as you call it "amino crash" due to hyperaminoacidemia (had to google that word to spell it right!)
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You're exactly right about the protein pulse.
This is anabolically superior to a steady influx of amino acids which will induce a state of protein resistance. It's as though our muscle gets used to the amino acids and decreases the subsequent anabolic response to them.
So you agree with me then (see above response about Hyperaminoacidemia)
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Amino acid delivery to muscle is part of the anabolic response of pre-workout meals. This is caused by an increase in insulin from the meal, which in turn elevates muscle blood flow .
true, but i like things slow and steady rather than rushed and crashing
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I'm certain that I've opened more than one can of worms here. This is farther than I've gone with any of my articles yet, outside of the books, and there are literally several articles that can (and WILL) be written about each concept.
The first such article will be submitted in a day or two, which I think will answer many ensuing questions.
Yes you have indeed, i look forward to seeing your works.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions David, good to have you on board
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RE: Pre-workout shakes - May 13 2008 10:18:01
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Can I just ask guys, everyone mentions about taking a shake before workout but if your on a cut and you will mainly just be doing cardio work is it then not advisable to have a shake an hour before? all I am thinking is that it will sit in the stomach when your running??
At present, I dont eat anything an hour or so before just take eph, asprin and coffee before gym (30 min before)...
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