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whatcanisayimste -> what do you do WHEn (May 9 2008 13:01:27)

you have shoulders which a disproportionatly smaller than any other muscle group,

im not a skinny guy but i do have really weak shoulders,

should i just do shoulder exercises till theyve caught up with the rest of my body

or shud i just do a routine which emphasises the shoulders?

any routine ideas greatly apreciated


Wayne Cowdrey -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 9 2008 16:12:15)


quote:

ORIGINAL: whatcanisayimste

should i just do shoulder exercises till theyve caught up with the rest of my body



NO!!!

Whole body training, with a bit of extra emphasis on shoulders.


dirtyvest -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 9 2008 16:20:14)

1st stop, post your routine so we can see if there is anything obvious that you are overlooking.


beefycol -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 10 2008 0:42:37)

asbove, post routine. also pic of you be good, might be in you head


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 12:16:11)

[img]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g86/whatcanisayimste/smallshoulders.jpg[/img]

if you see my colar bone is diagnal not horizontal
is this because i have bad Bass?/ genetics? or just because my shoulders
are undeveloped?

routine which i have just started is Frankies compound 3 day push pull leg's routine

because as i was reading aparantly on push pull and legs, the shoulders 'get hit'
so
any advice?

judging from my pic, what do people think my goals should be? get a lower body fat percentage before moving on to bulking?

and as a begginer should the only supplement i be taking a Whey shake?


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 16:41:40)

no1 got any ideaS?



dirtyvest -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 16:54:05)

I wouldn't say your shoulders are disproportionally smaller than the rest of you from that shot TBH


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 16:57:19)

look at my colar bone, with most people its horizontal _______ mines kinda diagnal? is that because ma shoulders are underdeveloped?

and it may not look it but i can bench like 55kg, but im on like 9kg shoulder press?

is that normal proportions?


dirtyvest -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 17:14:22)

Your strength will come in time, also bare in mind when starting out, benching moves are usually a bit simpler to master than overhead lifts a) we have generally attempted them more and b) less motor skills required


scruffy -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 17:21:46)


quote:

ORIGINAL: whatcanisayimste

[img]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g86/whatcanisayimste/smallshoulders.jpg[/img]

if you see my colar bone is diagnal not horizontal
is this because i have bad Bass?/ genetics? or just because my shoulders
are undeveloped?

routine which i have just started is Frankies compound 3 day push pull leg's routine

because as i was reading aparantly on push pull and legs, the shoulders 'get hit'
so
any advice?

judging from my pic, what do people think my goals should be? get a lower body fat percentage before moving on to bulking?

and as a begginer should the only supplement i be taking a Whey shake?



welcome to the board mate, as a beginner enjoy your most productive stage in training, get some mass on your frame, eat well and train hard, forget about lagging bodyparts for a year or too as you will find some respond better than others.. eat big, train hard and get big,,, worry about looking good two years down the line when you are twice the size...


scruffy -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 17:23:37)


quote:

ORIGINAL: whatcanisayimste

look at my colar bone, with most people its horizontal _______ mines kinda diagnal? is that because ma shoulders are underdeveloped?

and it may not look it but i can bench like 55kg, but im on like 9kg shoulder press?

is that normal proportions?


weights mean nothing, just dont get hung up on what everyone else is doing, just try to increase weight every couple of sessions and you will grow


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 17:39:13)

thanks for the welcome,

i fully intend to change my diet around ,

ive been looking at jak5r's journal, and im going to base my diet around his,

ive invested in alot of chicken, and whey protein, fruit, mixed seeds including flax seeds and hemp seeds,

i used to drink about 20-30pints in a weekend, and pizza's macdonalds and kebabs were quite a regular thing, last few weekends tho ive had about 3-4 drinks so ive cut down significantly,

i also read cashmans begginers guide , i dont think im one of those people that gets bored too easily , or gives up because havent made massive gains in 6 weeks,


so should i not be worried about my dodgy collar bone/shoulderS?


Dan12345 -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 12 2008 22:46:29)

id wouldnt worry about it doesnt look like a problem to me.
as people have already said just try and get some more mass on over the next year and see were your at then.

I wouldnt try and cut bf yet bulk up a bit first.
as for supps just stick to whey and get a good diet and you'll see results


fun meter -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 8:49:59)

Bulk, eat clean, train hard, and rest. You'll be able to make some good gains, and you'll notice it after a few months.

I also think it would be worth trying to sort your posture out. Straighten you back, pull your shoulders back and down, expand your chest a bit etc... Try and improve it over time. [:)]


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 11:48:21)

posture ? thats something i never really thought about, i do have bad posture,

thanks :D


T0NY -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 12:45:55)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

I wouldn't say your shoulders are disproportionally smaller than the rest of you from that shot TBH


I agree.


MrMauy -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 13:08:40)

As has been said your shoulders don't look out of proportion at all. Although it appears in that shot as though you are slouching a lot.

Stand in front of the mirror, take a deep breath and pull your shoulders back keep your head high and push your chest out.... then tell us if you think it looks better.


beefycol -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 18:59:12)


quote:

ORIGINAL: fun meter

Bulk, eat clean, train hard, and rest. You'll be able to make some good gains, and you'll notice it after a few months.

I also think it would be worth trying to sort your posture out. Straighten you back, pull your shoulders back and down, expand your chest a bit etc... Try and improve it over time. [:)]


agreed, forget cutting, eat eat eat, get some real size then think about cutting ie ready for next summer


whatcanisayimste -> RE: what do you do WHEn (May 13 2008 20:07:44)

alrite cheers guys

i dont think diets going to be a problem
ive got that by the balls,
its just my form, on some exercises
but im sure it will come with time

i keep doing deadlifts wrong which could cause some serious
injury so at the moment im just trying to perfect my form

and yea i agree with the cut next summer

cheers again (Y)



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