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some grappling/training questions - May 9 2008 15:46:32   
trixta


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some opinions and advice wanted if you can....

ive recently started training jujitsu,and the instructor and one of the top lads(done well in comps) in the class are saying im picking stuff up really really quickly and really well,and im enjoying it,but its raised some questions....

i really enjoy the training and want to compete as soon as i can,but there seems to be the mention of lots of self defence oriented training sticks/knives and stuff,which i really dont need/see the point of.

im getting ahead of myself but there is only competitions mentioned every six months,and grading every four months,im not sure how normal it is in scheme of things.

i pretty sure i intimidate some of the people their,and it makes me uncomfortable.

im not sure if they all actually train against resistance,or if im just being impatient?

they are getting ready to grade a couple of the lads,but there is no sparring or rolling,its all technique work.

should i carry on a bit,or is judo or bjj a better idea?anybody done jjj as a syllabus and tell me about what i can expect?

cheers.
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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 9 2008 17:31:28   
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Why dont you just enter competitions yourself if thats what you want to do or move to a club where its more orientated towards what you want to do


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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 9 2008 17:55:44   
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quote:

hould i carry on a bit,or is judo or bjj a better idea?


better idea for what? what do u actually want from it?

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 11:03:45   
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better idea for what? what do u actually want from it?


er,just to get as much live sparring/minimum'weapon/defense etc'training,chance to compete as much as i can if i progress well enough,and focussed enough on actual grappling/groundfighting,so that if/when i decide to do mma,it will come in useful.



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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 12:54:42   
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well i started judo as i knew it involved lots of fighting - throws ,grappling and chokes/locks , I also like the fact that judo is very popular and there is massive scope for plenty of comps ,although the grading is moving away from fighting for belts,there will still be comps to get some fights in

i preferr grappling but BJJ or even submission wrestling isnt as popular (or atleast widley practiced) might be worth going along to a club for a look

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 13:05:16   
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as ras was saying if you want to compete then have a look around at different competitions because a lot of them will be open ones and you will be able to enter yourself

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 14:32:15   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: boar

well i started judo as i knew it involved lots of fighting - throws ,grappling and chokes/locks , I also like the fact that judo is very popular and there is massive scope for plenty of comps ,although the grading is moving away from fighting for belts,there will still be comps to get some fights in

i preferr grappling but BJJ or even submission wrestling isnt as popular (or atleast widley practiced) might be worth going along to a club for a look



is it self defence or all grappling?i was going to do judo but it didnt happen at the time,now im wondering wether i should try a session and compare.

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 14:46:46   
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Dont be so quick to dissmiss training with knives or sticks/bottles mate - everyday the number of attacks are on the increase,its better knowing it than not. Also it wont effect your competitions,it will just be used for grading most probably.

There are also ju-jitsu comps you can enter which are mma orientated - express your interest in rolling and striking to the instructor, if he says no we are a traditional ju-jitsu club then move on to another ju-jitsu club like tai-ho jutsu,combat ju-jutsu ,bjj or judo as you mentioned or just find an mma club.

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 18:53:31   
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Dont be so quick to dissmiss training with knives or sticks/bottles mate - everyday the number of attacks are on the increase,its better knowing it than not. Also it wont effect your competitions,it will just be used for grading most probably.

cheers mate but i can scrap a bit and im a fast runner tbh,also been in those situations in real life and the last thing i would be thinking of is a pre prepared attempt to be a ero

There are also ju-jitsu comps you can enter which are mma orientated - express your interest in rolling and striking to the instructor, if he says no we are a traditional ju-jitsu club then move on to another ju-jitsu club like tai-ho jutsu,combat ju-jutsu ,bjj or judo as you mentioned or just find an mma club.

ill keep that in mind mate,ive seen some other stuff advertised,just reminded me of a couple of places i might contact.


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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 19:12:50   
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quote:

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Dont be so quick to dissmiss training with knives or sticks/bottles mate - everyday the number of attacks are on the increase,its better knowing it than not. Also it wont effect your competitions,it will just be used for grading most probably.

cheers mate but i can scrap a bit and im a fast runner tbh,also been in those situations in real life and the last thing i would be thinking of is a pre prepared attempt to be a ero






How well you can scrap has nothing to do with someone pulling a knife on you and i dont know what training you have heard of that involves tackling someone who has a knife if there is a clear exit route and trying to become a hero??? That certainatly is not what self defense is about. If you have a clear exit you get the fcuk out of there,if your backed into a corner try and put something between you and the knife like a bin lid/pick up a chair etc etc - with no exit or no object to put between you what are you going to do??

I dont think you fully understand the meaning of self defense mate,i'm not trying to be-little you or try and say my da can beat up your da etc etc BUT what are you going to do if you backed against a wall and some scum bag is threatening you with a blade???

The last thing you want to do is get into a scrap with him -

All i'm saying is dont dis-credit self defense regarding knives or bottles/sticks - their taught for a very good reason, a bit of knowledge and training is easy carried.



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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 19:39:35   
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judo is all fighting !!

standing or groundwork - win by a throw , submission , pin or choke , after a good session you feel like you have been in a train crash.

as above , have a look round ,try different clubs ,they should be more than happy for you to have a gander

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 20:12:48   
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ORIGINAL: ckm paul




How well you can scrap has nothing to do with someone pulling a knife on you and i dont know what training you have heard of that involves tackling someone who has a knife if there is a clear exit route and trying to become a hero???

ill stand corrected there,im going off what ive seen on videos etc

That certainatly is not what self defense is about. If you have a clear exit you get the fcuk out of there,if your backed into a corner try and put something between you and the knife like a bin lid/pick up a chair etc etc - with no exit or no object to put between you what are you going to do??

theres no way to answer this truthfully without being or at least sounding like a total prick,but logic and experience/instinct would allow me to deal/cope with a situation like this

I dont think you fully understand the meaning of self defense mate,i'm not trying to be-little you or try and say my da can beat up your da etc etc BUT what are you going to do if you backed against a wall and some scum bag is threatening you with a blade???

The last thing you want to do is get into a scrap with him -true

All i'm saying is dont dis-credit self defense regarding knives or bottles/sticks - their taught for a very good reason, a bit of knowledge and training is easy carried.

im not mate,but i dont want to train for self defense,its not really a worry,im more interested in sport/competition




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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 10 2008 20:14:17   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: boar

judo is all fighting !!

standing or groundwork - win by a throw , submission , pin or choke , after a good session you feel like you have been in a train crash.

as above , have a look round ,try different clubs ,they should be more than happy for you to have a gander


thanks boar,im gonna have a look.

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RE: some grappling/training questions - May 12 2008 16:02:01   
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Try Judo mate, sounds like what your after. Bjj is along those lines to but it takes you to be very fit for it, its a different kind of fitness ie, not being able to breathe wit some big dude lying across your throat. I experienced the same thing at a wing chun class years ago , when trying to get the chi sau sorted they started teaching sticks and grappling, but that was back in the day when mma was only starting, cant say it didnt help though, i wouldnt worry to much on self defence cause your competing on a regular basis and this will be better for you than running about a dojo or gym with a wooden sword or rubber knife but you should look at some reality based arts.

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