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| Ban members for starting such childish threads and lowering the tone |
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| Ban members contributing to such topics despite frequent warnings |
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(last vote on : May 13 2008 15:17:55)
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:47:33
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I'm a bit lost - who's turn is it to mud sling again ?
I personally think it's time a MOD locked this now - before it gets out of hand. Just my opinion.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:52:05
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i think swift is trying to say, with a male biased forum you are going to get threads like this
some members have not been around long enough to know the rules as they change weekly somewhat here
have a line to what is accepted and stick to it so members have an idea once they stick around
leaving bad threads open just creates even more bad feeling
I can't say I've ever seen rules changing on the board. Things are a little looser these days that when I first read muscletalk with more leway on some topics, but there is no major change that I've seen.
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Id put money on the fact that most lads reading this post say similar things to there mates in the gym.
there is footage of dorian yates commenting on the 'asses of brazilian girls' on YT
Who some would argue is the king of uk bodybuilding
There is a difference between a throw away line in a gym and posts on a forum. You need more care with the written word than speach, as many things can be read into even simple statements. This is a cause of a lot of the friction between members from what I've seen.
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one of your very own, drab4 created the prettiest girl thread did he not.
There is a difference between that tread and an i'd hit it thread is there not? If the board is moderated, then a line has to be drawn somewhere and generally I think the strick standard has stood the test of time.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:56:14
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the whole political/religious rule change, is politics and such allowed to be discussed any more?
i am not a fan of tits n ass threads anymore as i agree with the mod team that it degrades the forum but it has to be cracked down on and not allowing 6 page threads like this to continue and then after page 8 its locked.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:56:32
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kitty, i cant edit it because im behind a proxy and the new smaller window wont load.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:58:04
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I would both ban members for starting such childish threads and lowering the tone and ban members contributing to such topics despite frequent warnings.
A good old fashioned short sharp shock.
Bet it would half the total amount of tripe that now gets posted in here.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 14:59:23
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I really dont think there is a world of difference in the threads Wheels.
Im going to bow out now fellas, the sun is shining and all that
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 15:01:53
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>>You forgot to say "privately owned, commercial internet message board" where the rules are laid down by the board owners and upheld by their chosen team of mods, which is what you see me doing here. <<
I didn't forget squat, I just cant see any obvious broken rule for you to stick an oar into and I dislike power-hungry bullies who enjoy telling other people what they should and shouldn't say. The original post, put in the "general" area, was suitably in topic. The poster, discretely, didnt say "would you shag..." he just said "would you...?" and left the reader to make their own decisions as to what he meant. As "offensive" posts go, they dont come much tamer or more careful than this. In the end, if you are a mod then you could have edited or even removed the post. Instead, you chose to take a sarcastic and unbalanced response and throw a silly poll our way. I find your approach offensive, but there's no "supermod" to stand up for me or the original poster and reproach you for being unbalanced and full-of-yourself. Which is a great pity.
You talk about "private commercial interests" but are YOU the owner? If you are, fine, you can do whatever you like. And if that's the case then you should make a public statement that you wont accept this kind of banter ever and reinforce that rule by removing and banning infringing messages and posters. Then we will all know exactly where we stand. Bye=Bye Muscletalk, I suspect. If you are not the owner, then perhaps the owner could let us know if your behaviour is acceptable here? In my experience, owners are not always happy when mods get overzealous and unreasonable, and begin foisting their own agenda onto private and unoffensive discussion.
Now don't get me wrong. If the poster had actually *been* offensive or unpleasant, fair enough. In my opinion, it was banter. You may like it, you may not, but unless free speech in a "general" area is now dead, you shouldn't have interfered at all. And if you really felt you must, there were better ways to do it than the one you chose.
>>Second to enforcing the board owners wishes the mod team exists to take on board the views of the majority of members reading this forum and ensure that the minority does not spoil this majority's enjoyment of the board, which again is what you see me doing here with so many members confirming they are in agreement with my actions. <<
Im not sure we saw any such thing. You see, your poll only gave options to vote for YOUR opinions. If your poll had offered both sides... ie (a) is this sort of message acceptable (b) should we make a stand AGAINST this sort of message and then genuinely given all readers a chance to say either way, that would have been fair enough. Because then we would know what the *majority* you are so keen to "say" you support actually think, rather than just what YOU say they think. And if the majority had then told you to take your preachy rulings and down them with a pint of unflavoured whey, you would have had no choice but to settle quietly in a corner and sulk. If you are going to claim to stand for the majority, you should take the time to actually find out what the majority think. Maybe they agree with you. Who knows? But you did not give us a chance to say either way. That's what I find irritating.
>>Thirdly, as a long standing member of this forum, yes I do feel strongly about this subject and I'm not prepared to sit back and let a few infants (as that is how I view them) who will no doubt grow tired of this board in the short team drag down the quality of the forum and ruin the long term focus and aims of this online community. <<
As a user of the board you are as entitled to voice your opinion as to what is and is not appropriate as anybody else. The problem is, as a moderator, you are using your power to voice your own personal opinions in an unbalanced way. Maybe MT's owners have given you this remit, but if so that's unusual. The "usual" job of moderators is to enforce board rules (none were broken as far as I can see) and to manage the tone of the board in keeping with its proposed ethos. Now clearly you may have been trying to do the latter, but I would respectfully suggest that you don't know what the users of the board want unless you ask them, fairly and honestly, and that if you do not then you are simply making assumptions based on personal prejudice. You can call me names if you like, but I dont consider myself an infant or an idiot. Yet I have no personal problem with the message which provoked your initial attack. If the majority of users *do*, then fine, I'd be willing to accept that. But I suspect the majority of users would vote for free-speech and reasonable banter over moderator-imposed fakeness any day. At least, I hope they would.
>>So whilst you speak of wishing this board to remain a democracy where members can post what they like without fear of censorship,<<
There's nothing in my message that says that, but do feel free to put words in my mouth if it suits you. My problem is with your heavy-handed and sarcastic moderation in respect of this post. Censorship on a commercial board is obviously always going to be necessary to some degree. But to WHAT degree is the question. You seem to be saying that if a member thinks a mod has acted incorrectly or inappropriately they should say nothing. I dont believe thats the right thing to do.
>> please allow me to remind you of the greatest aspect of a democracy - free will - in the sense that if you don't like the rules we set down here or don't appreciate or understand what we hope to achieve with these rules, please feel free to find another forum to post upon. Other than that, thanks for your contribution.<<
I could, easily, let you bully me into leaving, I know. Its becoming clear that you are happy to show anybody the door who doesn't say exactly what you would like them to say in exactly the way you would like them to say it. But I've broken no rules here either. Im expressing my opinion in a clear way, without resorting to name-calling or mindless threats. If you want to kick me out and ban me, I guess nobody can stop you doing so. But unless you do, I wont be going anywhere. I'll remain here, speaking my mind in what I hope is a reasonable fashion, as befits an internet discussion board of this type. If you don't apprecate or understand what Im hoping to achieve by those actions then please feel free to continue doing whatever you like with the responsibilities that have been entrusted to you.
Other than that, than YOU for YOUR contribution.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 15:02:38
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I really dont think there is a world of difference in the threads Wheels.
one one fella says to another in the gym is between just the 2/3/4 of them
the written word is there for everyone to see so more care has to be taken to not offend is the point they are trying to make i think?
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 15:03:27
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wish i was'nt working and could contribute to this discussion a little more...
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 15:06:08
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I'm actually a little dissapointed that this thread has been left to run.
There was a time when threads telling James how his forum should be run and debating forum rues were locked without discussion. Mt is not a democracy it a business and the owner has the right to run it how he sees fit.
Members know the rules when they sign up, you have to agree to them to process your registration. So don't start bitching about them when you get here. Its quite simple in my eyes, if you don't like it then **** off.
I'm at a loss to understand why people who obviously have a major problem with the way this forum is run frequent it so much.
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RE: Duffy - May 13 2008 15:09:09
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Its fairly simple in my eyes. If you don't like it then **** off. ???
Nice...
I wouldn't like being a MOD ... It's a thankless task. Just seems a shame to be so strict on what is percieved as correct
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 15:13:39
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I'm going to stick my oar in too.
I utterly hate that song 'Mercy'.
It really gets on my tits.
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 15:16:17
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By miles.
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Anyway in my experience its always the short guys who are smart arses here,How tall are you john kerr? 5`3?
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 15:16:47
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I'm going to stick my oar in too.
I utterly hate that song 'Mercy'.
It really gets on my tits.
Edit that post please Mr JohnKerr2 it contain's a bad word 
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 15:18:07
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As this thread is clearly losing its way it's time to put it to bed.
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 15:28:12
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Lol thanks for the lock LMC, I'm busy now so I don't have time for any further lengthy replies, however suffice to say I stand by my actions in this and other threads and I'm sure if James has the time to pop on later he too will support my point of view and my actions as I'm aware they match his own.
Just one last thing tho Chancer, where do you wish me to send the signed photo we discussed, I hate to let a new found fan down 
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RE: Duffy - Now with Poll!! - May 13 2008 16:08:24
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Bugger - I meant to lock this after my post earlier!!!! Bugger - I was stressed today.
Simple error - I should have locked my mistake. Didn't realise the topic had been going on so long!
Sorry mods and decent members - this mistake was one of my gems!! 
Anyway, thanks for handling the debates, and the same people have ranted! Guys - is it not common sense how to behave in public? You moan about chavs and the like, yet you behave like them here? It's common sense - simple post on MT with the same civil behaviour you'd expect in real life. It really really isn't hard!!
Mick - thanks for your comments. Just to make reference to 'the line', yes one needs to be drawn, but the very nature of the issues, is that there needs to be flexibility. Banter is fine, banter is great, but juvenile, rude, sexist banter is not good at all.
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one of your very own, drab4 created the prettiest girl thread did he not.
drab's reasoning for this topic, was to stop the sexism and to contain it to one topic - a good move IMO
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I would both ban members for starting such childish threads and lowering the tone and ban members contributing to such topics despite frequent warnings.
A good old fashioned short sharp shock.
Bet it would half the total amount of tripe that now gets posted in here.
And that's the way we could go. Unfortunately it's not always as simple as this, as nice as the idea is. Banning is not simple - we do this and some members become trolls with new identities, and it's harder to control them
But yes, a few simple 2 week bans are definitely due.
ChanceUK - I've only glanced at your post, but what I read, I don't think you really understand much TBH. Osagi may not own MT, but he posts on my behalf.
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