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No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 5:34:41
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drewtilldeath
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Hello all, I am a 22 year old powerlifter who has been seriously training for a little over two years. I am not sure if i am interested in starting a cycle or anything but i am just trying to learn about prohormones and steroids. I am curious to know what is the difference between a prohormone and a no prohormone natural testosterone increaser such as cissus-drol? I assume that cissus drol requires no PCT? What are some other similar natural test boosters that are non prohormones like cissus drol? Which non prohormone testosterone increasers are considered to be superior... Thanks for your time to answer my newbie questions.... STAY STRONG DREW
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 6:12:08
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stavross
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A non prohormone like cissussdrol stimulates your body to produce more of it's own testosterone. a prohormone (although most of the available ones are actually steroids) replaces the natural hormones in your body. You will generally get a better effect from a steroid but the side effects are greater too and also you have to do pct.
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 6:30:17
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drewtilldeath
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thanks for your knowledge man. So is it safe to say the side affects of cissus-drol are slim to none? I just want something that will give me a little boost without worrying about PCT and other side affects. When i get a bit older and Elite numbers are staring me in the face i may reconsider prohormones or steroids. oh and another question for you smart strongmen... what is the typical age when the body stops producing good amounts of testosterone.? One of my buddys was telling me like about the age of 25 or so. All i have ever taken is protein, creatine, and noxplode, would you guys recommend I take cissus drol with ZMA and tribulus??? any other recommendations for natural test boost with no pct or side affects would be greatly appreciated....Is that kind of stuff ok to take together... and do you have to cycle off of it after a while? Thanks again DREW
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 8:50:24
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Hello mate, welcome to MT More likely late thirties or early forties iirc for significant test production decline. I wouldn't recommend tribulus, not a proven test booster but is good for libido. Cissus drol alongside zma would be good for your circumstances, I wouldn't expect anything crazy in strength gains but it would be useful to get over a plateau. The cissus drol is effective at raising test and zma is a good mens health supplement anyway.
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 15:46:43
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drewtilldeath
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thanks a lot man.... is their anything else that is like cissus drol? Is the hyperdrol x2 and mass fx good? No PCT for any of that stuff right? oh yea what about 6 oxo? is it good. I just want to ask the experienced so i dont waste my money... I am not expecting serious gains but anything that helps a little would rule.... Thanks again Drew
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 16:40:59
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Daari
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Hyperdrol X2 is similar to cissus-drol. Cissus drol contains the main ingredient in hyperdrol (6-bromo) and the main ingredient in mass-fx (divanil) quote:
No PCT for any of that stuff right? Correct quote:
what about 6 oxo? is it good. A lot of people really like 6-oxo. I've never tried it myself. Not much feedback on 6-oxo on this board. Lots of feedback on hyperdrol/mass-fx/cissus-drol though
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RE: No prohormones combared to prohormones - May 13 2008 17:15:08
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jetaus
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I'm taking Cissus-Drol and have been for about a week. Relatively good so far. I'm doing an extra 5lbs on hammer curls (40 to 45) which, for a lad of my build, is quite a good jump after only a few days considering I've been stuck on 40's for ages. I'm taking 6-oxo after this cycle (in just under 4 weeks time) so I'll let you all know how I get on.
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