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building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 10:57:43
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elvis7uk
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whats the best excersie for mass building on ya back
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 13:40:27
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Deadlift
BB Rows
Chins
A good back can be built with other exercises, as long as you progress. But I think the above is a pretty solid combination.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 14:14:10
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Rows, chins/pulldowns, deadlifts. Mind you there's not much else that you couldn't fit into those 3 catageris perhaps apart from shrug variations.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 19:42:53
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whats the best excersie for mass building on ya back
If you only want one Bentover barbell rows.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 20:09:33
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granted bent over rows are good, but if you were going to have one, surely you'd go for deadlift?
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 22:10:28
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if you had only 1 i'd go deads, second chins
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 13 2008 22:18:14
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deads are quality, i like to alternate between db rows (on bench rowing with one arm per time) and bb rows.
i stretch my back every so often while do the exercises, i wan to 'feel' my lats if you get me.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 0:10:18
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If you only want one Bentover barbell rows.
Totally agree with you here mate, I don't rate deadlifts too highly tbh for the back, too much hips and legs IMO.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 9:27:00
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I don't rate deadlifts too highly tbh for the back, too much hips and legs IMO
True but you won't see a good deadlifter with a bad back for his size.
I think rows are the best single upper back exercise.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 14:50:19
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Totally agree with you here mate, I don't rate deadlifts too highly tbh for the back, too much hips and legs IMO.
I agree Deads just hit my arse and legs. I prefer to do direct back work like Bent over row. Cable row, Chins, Pulldowns, One armed Dumbell row. T Bar rows etc plenty of exercises can hit the back IMO
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 16:11:21
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Totally agree with you here mate, I don't rate deadlifts too highly tbh for the back, too much hips and legs IMO.
I agree Deads just hit my arse and legs. I prefer to do direct back work like Bent over row. Cable row, Chins, Pulldowns, One armed Dumbell row. T Bar rows etc plenty of exercises can hit the back IMO
That;s becuase it's a hip dominant rear chain exercise, what Iain said though stands.
Actually the back responds really well 'isometric' type movements, also it being so different in this regard means that you could have deads on a different day allowing you to hit the back more often.
I usually prefer trainees to use trad or sumo deads on a read chain legs day in a two upper two lower sessions split.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 17:31:20
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I don't rate deadlifts too highly tbh for the back, too much hips and legs IMO
True but you won't see a good deadlifter with a bad back for his size.
I think rows are the best single upper back exercise.
I don't know how powerlifters structure there routines but is deads the only movement they do that hits back ?
You can hit the lower back hard with rows depending how you do them.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 17:48:28
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Never seemed to get anything out of BB rows, so little infact I dropped them.
Deadlifts and chins form the staple of my back work.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 18:38:19
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I don't know how powerlifters structure there routines but is deads the only movement they do that hits back ?
As with most things there is a lot of variation in what people do. Many may just do deadlift training, many do upper back work as part for their deadlift training. Others train upper back to help benching. I think in general powerlifters will do a variety of upper back lifts like many other weight trainees.
Last week I did; machine rows, pulldowns and dumbbell rows. The week before I did chins, rows and pulldowns. I am not too consistent with the lifts just get the work in to keep some general strength there. My favorite lift is dumbbell rows.
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 18:48:03
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Last week I did; machine rows, pulldowns and dumbbell rows. The week before I did chins, rows and pulldowns. I am not too consistent with the lifts just get the work in to keep some general strength there. My favorite lift is dumbbell rows.
I could swear I typed this; it's very similar to what I do lol. I love doing dumbell rows to my hips (not straight up like most do, more in an arching motion). I also switch it up, but do a fair bit of upper back work throughout the week (one both my bench days)
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 18:48:41
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Never seemed to get anything out of BB rows, so little infact I dropped them.
Deadlifts and chins form the staple of my back work.
bad form
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 18:50:56
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I also switch it up, but do a fair bit of upper back work throughout the week (one both my bench days)
Ditto again. I am too busy being anal about squat/bench/deadlift technique to worry about what upper back stuff I do. Just get the work in without hurting anything and it'll be good!
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 20:07:50
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I don't know how powerlifters structure there routines but is deads the only movement they do that hits back ?
I think in general powerlifters will do a variety of upper back lifts like many other weight trainees.
Last week I did; machine rows, pulldowns and dumbbell rows. The week before I did chins, rows and pulldowns. I am not too consistent with the lifts just get the work in to keep some general strength there. My favorite lift is dumbbell rows.
Sorry to nit pic mate but if the majority are doing other direct back work then you carn't really say deadlifting is responsible for there back development?
One exercise i carn't get away with is dumbell rows just carn't seem to get a feel for them.
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Never seemed to get anything out of BB rows, so little infact I dropped them.
Deadlifts and chins form the staple of my back work.
Ever tried bench supported barbell rows in the power rack tony?
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RE: building up ur back whats best - May 14 2008 21:39:01
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One exercise i carn't get away with is dumbell rows just carn't seem to get a feel for them.
Trebor, if you haven't before, try then by letting the dumbell hang straight down, and instead of pulling it straight up, pull it back/up to touch your hip. I wasn't a big fan of them before, but I love this way
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