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Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 13 2008 14:24:53
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chrismac
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Seems bloody painfull! Might give it a go tonight [leg day]. http://www.t-nation.com/article/bodybuilding/hungarian_oak_leg_blast&cr=bodybuilding Quote : TNation quote:
Benoit Brodeur has been the President of the Quebec Bodybuilding Federation for around 20 years. Muscle — especially bodybuilding — is his passion. He's traveled around the world from Tahiti to California, trying to learn and develop the art of building muscle. Benoit has been trained by the likes of Vince Gironda, Mike Mentzer, and Robbie Robinson, and he's trained alongside legends like Tom Platz, Bertil Fox, and other such monsters of the past era. Recently he's been in contact with a lot of top pros, the likes of Gunther and Ronnie, hiring them to guest pose at the shows he promotes. The bottom line is that this guy has seen it all! He called me the other day and rather than say, ''Hi Chris, how are you doing?" he just exclaimed: ''I just saw the freakiest pair of legs I've ever seen since I trained alongside Tom Platz!'' Now, even today in an era of freaks, Platz's legs are still recognized as the freakiest in the history of bodybuilding. When a guy who's seen it all gets excited about something like that, you know he saw something special! ''The guy isn't even a bodybuilder'' he added. ''He's an Olympic wrestler from Hungary who's visiting some friends in Montreal." Benoit and the Hungarian got to talking and the wrestler was complaining that he has to stop training legs because his new program got them so big, he had to move up two weight classes! Benoit measured the guy's legs...they were 34 inches in circumference! That's almost a yard! To help you grasp that, a 28 inches pair of muscular legs is darn impressive, but 34-inch legs are kinda' like 24-inches arms — something that normally belongs to the world of unicorns and sorcerers. But this guy was for real. Obviously Benoit, being the student of bodybuilding he is, wanted to learn about this seemingly ''excessively effective training program.'' It wasn't some secret Eastern European method. In fact, it's so simplistic that it boggles the mind: • One set of squats • Two sets of leg extensions • Three sets of leg curls That's it! But the efficacy wasn't to be found in the amount of sets or the exercise selection; rather it was in the way each exercise was being performed. Exercise 1) Full back squat: for this first movement our Hungarian friend would perform two warm-up sets with 135lbs. By the way, that 135lbs was all that he used for his work set too! Once he felt properly warmed-up by doing 2 sets of 6-8 slow reps, the wrestler would begin his work set from hell. Understand that when Benoit met this guy, he had used this program for about 8 weeks or so. But here's the twist: his one work set of squats consisted of squatting in non-stop fashion for 8 minutes straight! That's right. He didn't start there though. He began the program by doing a set for two minutes and gradually adding time each subsequent session. Week 1 Session 1.1: (Monday) 1 x 2 minutes Session 1.2: (Thursday) 1 x 2:20 Week 2 Session 2.1: (Monday) 1 x 2:40 Session 2.2: (Thursday) 1 x 3 minutes Week 3 Session 3.1: (Monday) 1 x 3:20 Session 3.2: (Thursday) 1 x 3:40 Week 4 Session 4.1: (Monday) 1 x 4 minutes Session 4.2: (Thursday) 1 x 4:20 Week 5 Session 5.1: (Monday) 1 x 4:40 Session 5.2: (Thursday) 1 x 5 minutes Week 6 Session 6.1: (Monday) 1 x 5:30 Session 6.2: (Thursday) 1 x 6 minutes Week 7 Session 7.1: (Monday) 1 x 6:30 Session 7.2: (Thursday) 1 x 7 minutes Week 8 Session 8.1: (Monday) 1 x 7:30 Session 8.2: (Thursday) 1 x 8 minutes He kept using the same 135lbs for the duration of the whole cycle. That weight represented around 30% of his full back-squat maximum. The reps were kept smooth and controlled but the lifting portion was performed explosively, at least as fast as his fatigue level allowed. Exercise 2) Leg extensions: Honestly, after doing squats (especially when the sets got to be longer than 3 minutes), I have no idea how he even made it to the leg extension machine! But once seated he would perform 2 sets of 30 reps; 10 reps with the legs turned inward, 10 reps with the legs straight, and 10 reps with the legs turned outward. Each rep was ''squeezed'' at the peak contraction point and held for a second or so. 2 sets x 30 reps Exercise 3) Leg curls (lying): Three sets were performed in extended fashion. He performed 6-8 reps with the maximal weight possible for that number of reps (at that point, just being able to flex at the knee is impressive since the quads are so pumped!). He'd then pause for 10-12 seconds and then continue to failure. 3 x 6-8 (with a 10-12 second pause, and then continuing to failure) That's it! At it's longest (week 8), this workout lasted around 20 minutes, the bulk of the time being spent puking and tumbling toward the different workstations! Conclusion This workout can seem to be fairly simple (it is) but if you give it all you've got, it will be one of the hardest routines of your life! It can be deceptive, though. The first 2-3 sessions are somewhat easier as they're designed to get you used to the type of effort you'll have to give later on. Regardless, once you reach the point where your set of squat reaches 3 minutes, you'll have the feeling that you've been hit by a Mack truck! Not many people can actually tough out the plan and reach 8 minutes, as it requires a special breed of individual. But those who do tough it out will achieve a level of lower body development that would otherwise normally have taken years to achieve! [Editor's Note: I apologize that we don't have any pictures of this Hungarian monster, but the article was so damn interesting that I decided it should be posted anyway.] © 1998 — 2008 Testosterone, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 13 2008 18:19:07
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No photo of these freaky hungarian legs then, or the guy's name... forgive me for being cynical
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 13 2008 18:51:37
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try it for a couple of months. your not going to loose much if anything.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 13 2008 20:56:41
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Well I just did it [finished about an hour ago]. And my legs have completely seized up! Dom'd already. Here is what I did:- Squats 15 reps warm up 12 reps Warm up 10 reps Working Then I did low weight like mentioned in the article 60KG x 3mins 60KG x 3m 20sec [OUCH!!!] Then some regular squats [my legs were fried] 10 reps working 8 reps working I could really feel the fibres in my quads pinging in the last 2 sets. ___________________ SLDS = 15/15/12/6 Calf Raises = 30/25/25/25 Job Done! I wont be able to walk tomorrow! :D
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 13 2008 21:55:04
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Sounds painful.I'm all for trying new fangled routines once in a while.To relieve boredom apart from anyhthing else.Might give it a bash.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 14 2008 14:58:17
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ORIGINAL: chrismac Well I just did it [finished about an hour ago]. And my legs have completely seized up! Dom'd already. Here is what I did:- Squats 15 reps warm up 12 reps Warm up 10 reps Working Then I did low weight like mentioned in the article 60KG x 3mins 60KG x 3m 20sec [OUCH!!!] Then some regular squats [my legs were fried] 10 reps working 8 reps working I could really feel the fibres in my quads pinging in the last 2 sets. ___________________ SLDS = 15/15/12/6 Calf Raises = 30/25/25/25 Job Done! I wont be able to walk tomorrow! :D in the article he used the same weight as the warm up sets did you. also dont use this method to many times a wk or your CNS is going to get burnt out. IMO i cant see this working because there is no weight progression,and after so many minutes with the same weight you would just be spinning your wheels,but let us know how you go on good luck.try and post some before and after piccs.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 14 2008 16:16:17
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I used 60kgs in the first set as warm up, then 90kgs in the second, 130kgs in the 3rd [to get me into it!] - before hitting 60kgs for the timed sessions. I am not going to use this every leg session, its just something to use as a tool to shock the body. To note the lower back is one of the most painful parts [inc quads] when your almost at the end of the timed squats.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 14 2008 18:10:32
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Exercise 1) Full back squat: for this first movement our Hungarian friend would perform two warm-up sets with 135lbs. By the way, that 135lbs was all that he used for his work set too! Once he felt properly warmed-up by doing 2 sets of 6-8 slow reps, the wrestler would begin his work set from hell. he used the same weight for the three sets,so if you wanted to copy it you would have to do the same,if you drop the weight you are doing more of a drop or metabolic set.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 14 2008 18:30:41
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ORIGINAL: chrismac Well I just did it [finished about an hour ago]. And my legs have completely seized up! Dom'd already. Here is what I did:- Squats 15 reps warm up 12 reps Warm up 10 reps Working Then I did low weight like mentioned in the article 60KG x 3mins 60KG x 3m 20sec [OUCH!!!] Then some regular squats [my legs were fried] 10 reps working 8 reps working I could really feel the fibres in my quads pinging in the last 2 sets. ___________________ SLDS = 15/15/12/6 Calf Raises = 30/25/25/25 Job Done! I wont be able to walk tomorrow! :D any new type of training regime will yeild the same results, same as doing twenty rep squats after doing low rep work for so long,,,,your legs wont be used to it, it is no indication that better growth will occur
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 15 2008 16:00:25
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Quads respond to volume Tom Platz squated for time not reps.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 16 2008 0:04:06
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ORIGINAL: buzzer quote:
ORIGINAL: AceRimmer Quads respond to volume Tom Platz squated for time not reps. yes and he was also juiced up to the eyeballs and had geneticly freaky legs i wish people would stop comparing pro-bbrs to us normal people. All pro-bbrs are juiced up to the eyeballs but only a few legs stand out that are freaky. Genetics or training, you decide. As they say there are many ways to skin a cat. You seem to shoot this routine down, have you tried it and gained no size? Or just not a fan of t-nation articles?
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 16 2008 8:09:14
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I train my legs 1-2 times a week and teach a spin class (all up hill) 2-3 a week and my quads have exploded. They like volume.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 16 2008 9:31:14
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OK, Its now 3 days since my leg blasting routine and they are still stiff and dom'd! I am definitely going to stick with this. Maybe not to the word, but I will train normally [warm up squats, working heavy squats, then 1 or 2 sets of 3 mins @ 60kgs]. I think volume is the key to some decent legs.
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RE: Hungarian Oak Leg Blast - May 16 2008 12:08:39
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I think Platz and Ronnie had the same size thighs not sure but if you consider what Platz was taking compared to Ronnie its nothing. Let us know how you go as im planning on doin German Volume Training later in the year which would include 10 x 10 squats.
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