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mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 18:44:27
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jay06
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above is the stack im thinking of doing acycle of as it sounds like a lot less sides and less risky than others i have looked into saying theres no hair loss or gyno etc. but i dont see why it says it doesnt need a pct but comes with one anyway if it isnt toxic to liver or is this just to help balance and restore naturla hormone and test after cycle?
would people generaly suggest it toi be safe? also would iget better results with cissus i havent really looked into that though.
thanks for any help guys much appreciated
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 19:34:27
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but i dont see why it says it doesnt need a pct but comes with one anyway if it isnt toxic to liver or is this just to help balance and restore naturla hormone and test after cycle?
the product in question A-PCT, will further accentuate the gains made by both hyperdrol and mass-fx. It is recommeded as a PCT, but doesn't have to be used as a PCT.
A cap of A-PCT has 25mg 6-bromo
A cap of Hyperdrol x2 has 50mg 6-bromo per cap
with both products in the stack, you'll be getting 275mg of 6-bromo a day. This is better than the 200mg from hyperdrol x2, hence the inclusion of A-PCT
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would people generaly suggest it toi be safe?
Yes, it's safe
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also would iget better results with cissus
Are you referring to cissus-drol?
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 20:39:28
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yeah sorry cissus-drol. my goals are to gain size and mass
when it says no gyno and hair loss etc i take it that its true and not a load of bull?
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 21:47:29
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cissus-drol is also good. Read the feedback and make an informed decision
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when it says no gyno and hair loss etc i take it that its true and not a load of bull?
'tis true I tell thee
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 22:05:17
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I think Cissus-Drol has the most potential for mass gains due to the high strength dose of Cissus in it. At that strength and dose it's reportedly very anabolic. The AX products are great products in their own right, and I would say the HX2/MFX stack would probably yield a bigger increase in testosterone, and possibly more strength, but Cissus-Drol is a lot cheaper and I think would give greater mass.
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 22:45:40
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firestorm can you link me to any decent pages on cissus-drol if you know any please.
the main factor for me is less sides and the safer the better
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 23:42:36
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the main factor for me is less sides and the safer the better
All the products menitoned in this thread so far are pretty much side-effect free.
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 13 2008 23:43:16
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cheers, after having a read through that lot.
thinking maybe start off stated dosage of cissus-drol and then after a few days take 1 or 2 more a day as it works out cheaper would that still have no risk or gyno and hair loss etc sorry i just dont know hwat is in what and what causeswhat really
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 0:27:56
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if your hair falls out on a cissus drol cycle you might want to check if there's a family history of alopecia.
so no, you'll be fine mate.
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 9:01:31
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firestorm can you link me to any decent pages on cissus-drol if you know any please.
the main factor for me is less sides and the safer the better
Do you mean to buy? If so then extremesupps, link in sig. If for a review, search for firest0rm and Cissus-Drol, I kept a log.
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 9:35:28
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Talking about stacks and Cissus-drol.... I've been taking CD for around a week and have managed to get my grubby mitts on a couple of JW (the older version) just the other day.
I'm wondering whether it would be worthwhile stacking it with Cissus-Drol or hang on to it until I've finished with this round of Cissus-Drol?
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 9:49:43
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ORIGINAL: Adil
All the products menitoned in this thread so far are pretty much side-effect free.
Soon fix that Adil by mentioning Methyl-1-Test, Superdrol and pheraplex. 
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 11:44:52
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well ive ordered some cissus-drol hopefully get on with it well maybe do a small journal on it. any last advice guys?
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 11:46:51
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split doses evenly, and take each dose with a meal
It's also important to take your last dose, just before bed
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 11:54:10
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why is that? to keep the effects working throughout the night for as long as possible?
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 12:02:40
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why is that? to keep the effects working throughout the night for as long as possible?
Most of your testosterone is produced when you are sleeping.
The mechanism through which 6-bromo works (the active ingredient in cissus-drol) is the same as any other AI (aromatise inhibitor). What it does, is decrease oestrogen. The large majority of your bodies oestrogen is made by conversion of testosterone (aromatises).
So your body (through negative feedback) thinks..."I need more oestrogen, so i'll increase the amount of testosterone which will eventually turn to oestrogen". It does this by increasing LH levels.
So your body increases testosterone production in the hope that some will turn to oestrogen, but because you are using an AI, testosterone is not readily aromatised into oestrogen. So you have more testosterone
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 12:38:32
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As 6-bromo is a suicide inhibitor, theoretically yes.
It should be said though that at a normal dosing protocol, the user should have nothing to worry about. If you decide to overdose and cease the product without tapering down, then this may lead to associated problems (gyno being one of them)
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RE: mass stack or cissus cycle? - May 14 2008 14:18:15
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how sure are you on that gyno with cissus there adil?
also being 19 i forgot to mention that much of a problem there?
would taking the pct that comes with the mass fx stack be a good idea? for better resultsand to stop any hormone crashesect?
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