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scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:31:59
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Murphyblew
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I have a feeling Ive just been had on ebay and don't know wtf I should do about it
It was for item number: 120261909786
Item title "BRAND NEW NOKIA N95 8GB UNLOCKED WARRANTY BLACK"
I can't even remember what the fking seller was called now. The item number aparently, according to ebay "has been removed or is no longer available." and they say "If the listing was removed by eBay, consider it cancelled."
I bought it through fking ebay and its not even showing up in my ebay! there's absoloutely no trace of it what so ever. Nothing under items won, nothing in the items being watched, as I was watching it also.
The phone was listed in USD. The guy had 30 of them apparently and was selling them for $400.00 USD each (equates to roughly £205) plus $19.99 postage (£10) for "first class international" or something
Now, in the description the guy says nothing about how payment is accepted, just had the normal paypal bit at the bottom and it all appeared fine, all beit, the description was a bit off looking and a couple of people had emailed asking if they were genuine, to which the guy replied yes etc. I even asked him, infact fk it, I'll post up the whole email convo, as in his description he asked people interested to email him direct for a quicker reply
here it is, (ive edited personal stuff for obvious reasons)... its back to front aswell!
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Delivery details have been noted. Let me know when you have the payment confirmation, in order to proceed with the postage.
Best regards
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, <murphy@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Excellent, thanks. Ive just bought one on ebay and will leave to go to the western union agent in a minute. If possible, would you be able to send out the phone today, as I'd really need it here by Friday.
The address to send it to is
yep I gave him my name and address too
Thanks a lot
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:28:01 +0300
From: paceengr@gmail.com
To: murphy@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW NOKIA N95 8GB UNLOCKED WARRANTY BLACK Item number: 120261909786
You can also take pounds to the western union agent.
Delivery as soon as payment is confirmed. Meanwhile you complete the payment, reply with your details where to send the package.
Let me know
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:15 PM, <murphy@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, OK cheers. Regretfully I don't have £410.00 GBP in cash on me, so will only be ordering one of the phones at $400.00 USD.
I do not have any US Dollars, so I assume the converted equivalent in GB Pounds sterling would be ok to take to the western union agent? This is approx £205.00 GBP + £10.00 GBP for postage = £215.00
Thanks again.
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:02:14 +0300
From: paceengr@gmail.com
To: murphy@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW NOKIA N95 8GB UNLOCKED WARRANTY BLACK Item number: 120261909786
Here are my details where to send the western union payment for your purchase:
Ron Kube
61 Lilford Road
London, SE5 9DB
United Kingdom
Locate any western union agent location where to go with cash and my details to complete the payment. After payment is completed, reply with the payment confirmation and the sender details for delivery.
To search for an agent near your location you can use the link written below:
http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp
Please do your best and complete the payment process as requested.
Let me know!!
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM, <murphy@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hi
Thanks for that. How would I go about paying via western union?
Cheers
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:32:06 +0300
From: paceengr@gmail.com
To: murphy@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW NOKIA N95 8GB UNLOCKED WARRANTY BLACK Item number: 120261909786
Yes, it is the model with 8GB internal memory.
Price for 2 units will be US $770, postage and insurance fees included too. Payment method by western union. Delivery upon receipt of payment.
Let me know
Thanks.
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM, me <murphy@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks for the fast reply. So it is the 8gb internal memory n95?
Sorry for all the questions mate, just want to be sure as theres so many cheap copies on ebay at the mo.
One last question, actually 2! Would it be possible to order more than one of these phones? If I were to buy 2, would you be willing to do a deal?
Lastly, would paypal be acceptable as payment?
Thanks a lot
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:18:19 +0300
From: paceengr@gmail.com
To: murphy@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW NOKIA N95 8GB UNLOCKED WARRANTY BLACK Item number: 120261909786
Phones are brand new, unlocked, in boxed, made in Finland, 100% original and authentic. It has all you need ( WIFI, GPS, ETC). Delivery time will be 2 or 3 days. Depends on your location in United Kingdom. If interested in placing an order, just let me know.
My goal is giving 100% satisfaction garuantee to all my customers.
Best regards and hope to proceed to your first order!!
Cheers.
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM, me <murphy@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,
This is just an email regarding the nokia N95's you have for sale on ebay. I have read that they are genuine and 100% authentic n95's from Finland.
Are they unbranded? I trust the full spec of the phones you have are exactly the same as other n95's on ebay and come boxed, sealed and complete?
Also, if I were to buy and pay now, how long would I expect to have to wait before I receive the phone?
Many Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you
Regards
thinking everything was fine and as I've never paid using a western union money transfer before, I scooted off into town, down to the agency, handed over fking £247.00 (not the £215 I was expecting - not realising there was going to be a fee) and after having to fill in this form and another one, warning, funnily enough against things like this, it clicked. I said this to the guy at the counter as he had the forms in his hand, processing them and he carried on regardless and was quick enough to hand me my change and tell me its too late, the pr1ck and to take it up with the seller.
Got home and now nothings coming up on ebay, there's no history of the transaction and nothings even coming up in my history.
I haven't repled to the guy yet to say whether I have sent the payment through, as I thought I'd se what you guys had to advise first as I'm pretty stuck and have no idea what to do next.
Sorry its a bit of a long one, but any help guys please, would be ace
thanks
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:39:15
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:42:07
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cheers mate! not really what I wanted to hear though!
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:45:03
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You have been well had,i would never fall for this personally.
Sorry to say but your money is down the drain mate,try and write to e-bay or something but i doubt very much you will recieve a penny back.
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:47:18
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nah mate, thats not him. Seller status said he was in London, as was the addy he gave me
Ron Kube
61 Lilford Road
London, SE5 9DB
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:49:30
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With Western Union though, they have to have someone collect it at the other end, i.e. the other branch.
Might be worth getting in contact with the shop you went in and see when, who, and where it has been collected, and by.
Thats what the guy said mate down the western union agency. This Ron guy would have to bring proof of ID and go and collect it personally
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:50:51
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With Western Union though, they have to have someone collect it at the other end, i.e. the other branch.
Might be worth getting in contact with the shop you went in and see when, who, and where it has been collected, and by.
Thats what the guy said mate down the western union agency. This Ron guy would have to bring proof of ID and go and collect it personally
Yeh, well i would request to see that.
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:56:35
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It's gone and Western Union will be useless. eBay pretty much tell you never to pay via Western Union. It was a con and you got done. Email eBay and ask if you need confirmatiom.
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 18:57:33
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I have his address mate, as far as I know and it is a legit address, but the guy doesn't know Ive been and handed money over yet, as I haven't gotton back to him
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 19:02:07
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go to western union and cancel the transaction then 
itll cost you a bit but they can do it if no one has picked up yet. put a block on it!
is that really possible mate? how much do you think it'd cost? cheaper obviously than loosing £250
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 19:03:26
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as said DO NOT tell the seller the money is there to be picked up.
if anything ask for a phone number to ring him on. then say on the phone the money is there but you want to phone sending out before you tell him the transaction number.
thats if you really want the phone, if you just want as much money back as possible then leave it a few days and go and cancel the transaction.
with things like this its always best to put a security question on it, this way the seller can go and check the money is there then send the goods, once recieved he can have the answer to security question and get his money.
you're not fcuked by a long shot, just looks like you may have just had an expensive lesson.
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 19:10:44
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I would never use WU for money transfers on Ebay. As a company, you will probably find them hard to deal with re getting your money back. In my experience they do not cooperate willingly with investigations. Whilst Id has to be shown to collect money, scammers like this use fake id/identity theft to do so.
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 19:13:36
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as said DO NOT tell the seller the money is there to be picked up.
if anything ask for a phone number to ring him on. then say on the phone the money is there but you want to phone sending out before you tell him the transaction number.
thats if you really want the phone, if you just want as much money back as possible then leave it a few days and go and cancel the transaction.
with things like this its always best to put a security question on it, this way the seller can go and check the money is there then send the goods, once recieved he can have the answer to security question and get his money.
you're not fcuked by a long shot, just looks like you may have just had an expensive lesson.
stopped panicing so much now! thats a relief mate, thanks 
so the guy would need a transaction number to collect the money? i.e he couldn't just go in and pick it up?
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RE: scamming fk on ebay - May 14 2008 19:15:30
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Maybe even e-mail the seller and tell him that you haven't been able to take the cash down to the Western Union branch yet.
thats what I was thinking and then ask for a phone number to ring him on, to let him now that its there
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