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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 16 2008 18:14:10
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richsINS
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YEah 1800kcal was what i was aiming for, but lately its been lower (some poor planning of meals, and on some days just pure greed of wanting to lose 'weight' faster).
Whats the chance i can just regain lost muscle when i return to maintenance? Anyone have any ideas on that, would it just bounce right on back over a few weeks or would it takes months and months (i.e. its a huge problem).
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 16 2008 18:22:38
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Forgot to add, since i calorie count and all.
I've actually averaged around 1900Kcal intake over the past ~30days.
Burnt around 250 a day on exercise, Netting me a intake of 1650kcals.
Losing 1.22lb/week average = 610Kcal deficit.
So my maintenance is probably around 2200kcals (14kcal/lb).
So 1600 including exercise, so 1850kcals consumed.
Anyway to many numbers, real life results matter and i probably lost to much weight this week  .
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 16 2008 20:21:48
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Hmm, sounds like you're trying to drop too much too quickly.
Yes, muscle will "bounce back" to varying degrees - but it's not the best way to do things. If your muscle mass drops whilst dieting, your body is trying to adapt to the lower cals. If it does this successfully, then your metabolism is also dropping. This in turn means that the fat can/will bounce back too when you up the cals.
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 16 2008 20:50:19
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YEah true,
Ill try make sure i get 1800kcals daily and monitor fat loss.
Last weeks was slightly affected by a cheat meal on he 4th april(which bumped my weight around for weight measurements on the following days after that).
From the 9th to today i lost ~2lbs, but still to much to fast . Getting to 10% will be along journey, gee 
ill be adding HIIT soon which may be hard to calculate calories burnt, as doesnt it burn more "post" training? So the bike will give me a misleading number no doubt?
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 18 2008 14:20:50
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Another EFA's question, this time on the Omega3: Omega 6 ratios.
Is it the ratio we're concerned with, or the dose(Daily intake).
E.g. ive read ratios between 4:1 and 1:1 or o6:o3 is 'the aim', however i've also seen alot of articles/studys talk about side effects from eating to much omega 3(over 3g per day) such as blood thinning etc.
Would these effects be counteracted by the omega 6 if an equal dose was taken, or is it simply down to the ammount taken(high omega 3 = problems). So could i consume 30g omega 3 but balance it with 30g omega 6 to avoid these other 'effects'(yeah extreme example) or because im taking to high a "dose", id still get those 'side effects'?
Another question - My omega 3 fish caps are 180/120 EPA/DHA very standard. They're 1000mg though, is the other 700mg made up of other oils(not omega 3) or does each 1 contain 1gram of omega 3 total?
So as i've read in some studies, more than ~3g caused other effects - would this be 3fish caps, or would this be 10(.3g of EPA+DHA total x10 = 3g).
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 18 2008 15:13:57
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Another EFA's question, this time on the Omega3: Omega 6 ratios.
Is it the ratio we're concerned with, or the dose(Daily intake).
E.g. ive read ratios between 4:1 and 1:1 or o6:o3 is 'the aim', however i've also seen alot of articles/studys talk about side effects from eating to much omega 3(over 3g per day) such as blood thinning etc. I think it takes a helluva lot more than 3g of long-chain omega-3 a day to significantly "thin*" the blood as one small (213g) tin of wild red salmon contains ~6g of omega-3 and there are no warnings on the tin about it thinning the blood. Eskimos eat more than a small tins-worth of red salmon a day.
Would these effects be counteracted by the omega 6 if an equal dose was taken, or is it simply down to the ammount taken (high omega 3 = problems). So could i consume 30g omega 3 but balance it with 30g omega 6 to avoid these other 'effects' (yeah extreme example) or because im taking to high a "dose", id still get those 'side effects'? I think that it's the balance that counts. Large intakes of either omega-6 or omega-3 increase Vitamin E requirements so aren't recommended.
Another question - My omega 3 fish caps are 180/120 EPA/DHA very standard. They're 1000mg though, is the other 700mg made up of other oils (not omega 3) or does each 1 contain 1gram of omega 3 total? No. There's 300mg of EPA+DHA and a smidge of A-LNA but the rest is mostly mono fat and a bit of sat fat.
So as i've read in some studies, more than ~3g caused other effects - would this be 3 fish caps, or would this be 10 (.3g of EPA+DHA total x10 = 3g). I would say 3g/day of EPA+DHA i.e. 10 standard caps/day. What studies? What effects?
Thanks. *Blood thinning is a mis-nomer. Omega-3 fats reduce platelet aggregation which increases clotting time. See http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/reprint/166/5/608.pdf
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RE: Does the body store EFA's? - May 18 2008 15:40:54
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Dont have them to hand, just read alot of things mentioned such as blood thining(i believe this was the main one i saw mentioned alot).
Yeah fair point about the salmon tins, although i suppose cigarettes didnt have warnings for a long time either.
Think youve cleared up all my questions, thanks for your time once again nige!
Very helpfull!
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