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Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 11:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7403383.stm

I think this is disgusting behaviour by those in the forces or those who used to be.

IMO, its like shooting your own team member or even a family member (well, i call them a family member because they are essentially watching your back and can actually save you, same goes for vice versa, sometimes they might even take a bullet for you).

The forces are already under equipped as they are but yet these guys decide to instead help their fellow men, make a quick buck and put guns on the streets of civilians.

Hazard a touch of narcissism without shame.

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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 11:48
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Eighteen army servicemen have been dealt with either summarily or by army courts martial for theft of military equipment in the last three years, four of which involved the theft of firearms.

Among them was marine John Hickman, jailed last year for seven-and-a-half years for stealing a Browning 9mm pistol from the naval base in Faslane, on the Clyde.
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 11:50
Sensationalised garbage blown way out of proportion

There is corruption all over the place - it just so happens that when a corrupt individual is in the army with access to weapons , then weapons will get out - Just as a corrupt Tesco's worker will sell blue stripy baked beans to his mates on the cheap - exactly the same thing , although obviously a huge stigma attached due the the potential ramifications.

To expect corruption not to occour in sensitive areas such as this is futile - not saying it is right by any means , but you are always going to get it

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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 11:53
We arm countries with weapons daily.
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 11:54


ORIGINAL: Dr Zoidberg

Sensationalised garbage blown way out of proportion



Typical of the communists at the BBC to put a negative spin on great British enterprise.
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:15
Army boys involved in crime? I'm shocked. Shocked to my very core



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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:26

We arm countries with weapons daily.


Yes. A good example is Israel. They are given millions in aid and weapons, even though it's an ILLEGAL apartheid state
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:29


ORIGINAL: drab4

Army boys involved in crime? I'm shocked. Shocked to my very core





Ah, I've been waiting to try this out:


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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:30
LOL
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:40
Where else can respectable criminals get weapons? Criminals need weapons, so they have to get them from somewhere
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:46
Wasn't there a problem with a load of SA80's (or whatever , I am not up on my guns) not working properly ?

Stroke of genius if the MOD are palming these off on the criminal underworld via the backdoor
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:47
First series yes, jammed because dust kept getting in, and they fell apart on alot of guys serving in NI with them, absolute coCk up of the highest order that one.
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:49


ORIGINAL: James

Where else can respectable criminals get weapons? Criminals need weapons, so they have to get them from somewhere

Whatever happened to a good old punch-up and kick in the balls?
Why do people have to get all stabby and shooty these days?
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:52


ORIGINAL: rightyho



ORIGINAL: James

Where else can respectable criminals get weapons? Criminals need weapons, so they have to get them from somewhere

Whatever happened to a good old punch-up and kick in the balls?
Why do people have to get all stabby and shooty these days?

Gone are the days of a bit of ruff and tumble and a kick in the goolies
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 12:52

ORIGINAL: Dr Zoidberg

Sensationalised garbage blown way out of proportion

There is corruption all over the place - it just so happens that when a corrupt individual is in the army with access to weapons , then weapons will get out - Just as a corrupt Tesco's worker will sell blue stripy baked beans to his mates on the cheap - exactly the same thing , although obviously a huge stigma attached due the the potential ramifications.



I absolutely do not think its along or anywhere near the same thing. Totally different perspective and I dont even believe the same principal is there.



ORIGINAL: drab4

Army boys involved in crime? I'm shocked. Shocked to my very core






lol, just from meeting about 5 dudes who were on break or were in the forces, i couldnt agree anymore with your comment.



ORIGINAL: James

Where else can respectable criminals get weapons? Criminals need weapons, so they have to get them from somewhere


Indeed but why do the army lads have to be a supplier for even 1 of those weapons.

Essentially, what they are doing is disarming their team member / unit of a weapon which potentially can take down 'x' number of enemies per bullet in a weapon.

When I read it, I just though FFS, thats your own team player / bro who youre making worse off.

As above, I dont have any knowledge for what happens around the army lifestyle, , currently serving, ex forces, media portrayal etc. so my comments are just coming from the article (which as of course, i know not to believe 100% as its the standard media story).
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 13:14
hows that a shock? where do you think they come from.u cant buy em and you cant bring em in or mail em.there from internal sources
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 13:21
I believe that guy stole an SA80 too but really at the end of the day its only one pistol from a base in scotland not likely to see any imediate action is it? Still wrong of course and he deserved what he got.


You know what im' going to say, if firearms were legalised and controled properly then criminals might think twice about running around with weapons if they know some law abiding civs are armed.
 


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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 13:25


ORIGINAL: Stone


ORIGINAL: Dr Zoidberg

Sensationalised garbage blown way out of proportion

There is corruption all over the place - it just so happens that when a corrupt individual is in the army with access to weapons , then weapons will get out - Just as a corrupt Tesco's worker will sell blue stripy baked beans to his mates on the cheap - exactly the same thing , although obviously a huge stigma attached due the the potential ramifications.



I absolutely do not think its along or anywhere near the same thing. Totally different perspective and I dont even believe the same principal is there.




I disagree , other than the ramifications involved (as I already pointed out) the principle is the same , corrupt employess taking advantage of their postion of trust to make a few quid for themselves

I can't see how it is any different ?
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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 13:35


ORIGINAL: Adil


We arm countries with weapons daily.


Yes. A good example is Israel. They are given millions in aid and weapons, even though it's an ILLEGAL apartheid state



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RE: Disgusting behaviour by those supposed to support their country - 16 May 2008 13:39
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