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Sex organs on toast (pics pg.1) - 02 June 2008 19:54
Hey gang

Been bulking for a while. Did it very badly to start off with. What with reading bulking articles which assume everyone's a hard gainer, it's very easy to believe that you need to be taking in 5000cal a day and eat a biiiiiig bowl of cereal every night before you go to bed to gain any weight.

After losing a lot of bloody weight (and developing an ED) a while ago, I assumed the above and got pretty fat quite quickly. Only after a few months of doing this did I find out that some people don't need ridiculous amounts of calories and carbs to gain. I am one of those people.

After a few more months of bulking correctly (for my body type) I have become quite unhappy with the level of body fat I'm carrying and have decided that if I ever want to get serious about this I'm gonna have to be lean.

The plan:



  • Cut for 12 weeks to see how much weight I can lose (would like to trim off between 1 and 2 stone)

  • After that, slowly bulk (naturally) so as to add 2lbs a month for around 2 years
  • Then (when I'm around 22) I intend to cut down to a nice low level (8 or 9%) and begin my first cycle. I've decided that the look I want to ultimately achieve is not possible naturally, but there is no way I'm rushing into it. I need to do far more research and make sure that all other elements of my life are in order before I even seriously consider it.
    I would like to compete at around 25 years old, hopefully on stage at around 17-18st, though this is very ambitious, but I'll see how close I can get.



The cut

At the moment it's all about the cut though. I have accrued a fair bit of mass in the months I've been bulking, esp. considering that less than a year ago I weighed 8.5 stone (or 120ish lbs). My back has developed some good thickness and my shoulders, arms and legs have also gained a fair bit of size. However, my chest hasn't grown whatsoever, so I'm a bit annoyed at having to cut when I still have no chest (and a prominent collar bone). However, I blame this on my previous routine. I was following FrankieNY's routine which had only two chest exercises and I don't feel my chest was stimulated enough. I now do 5 exercises for chest, so once I begin bulking again I'm sure it will grow.

I'll be putting my food log in here. I will be taking in between 2000 and 2500cal a day. Lots of meat, lots of salad and a few carbs in there at the right times. I'll be venturing into town tomorrow to purchase some working scales (mine were £3 from Wilkos and are sh1te) and will take measurements and weight tomorrow. I'll also put up a few pics.

Sample diet below. I've realised I'll have to be quite anal and record pretty much everything in a spreadsheet if I want to get anywhere. Have attempted without doing so before, but I think that I've got to put a lot of effort and planning into this to get the fat stripped off. When I'm bulking I won't be counting cals .

Diet

Will look something like this (not included timings as sleeping patterns and meal times vary a wee bit, but each meal is between 2 and 4 hours apart).

Meal 1
50g oats
6 whites, 1 yolk

Meal 2
30g protein (15g when, 15 casein)
Wee bit of milk (and loads of water to dilute)

Meal 3
150g turkey
Undressed salad
20-30g mixed nuts

Meal 4 (pre-WO)
50g oats/ rice/ 2 oatibix
6 whites, 1 yolk/ 150g chicken/ turkey

Meal 5 (PWO)
50g oats/ rice/ 2 oatibix
6 whites, 1 yolk/ 150g chicken/ turkey
Undressed salad

Meal 6
(If I'm on a night out) 30g protein powder (blend), bit of milk, loads of water
(If I'm staying in) Stir fry veg, 150g turkey or chicken, few nuts or 300g cottage cheese

Meal 7 (only if I've been out and stayed out late (IE til 3am)
300g cottage cheese


That's my proposed diet. May be a bit low on cals, but I'll tinker with it. Any advice is welcomed.


Training

5 day split:
Day 1: Legs, abs
Day 2: Shoulders, triceps
Day 3: Deadlifts, biceps
Day 4: Lats, abs
Day 5: Chest

5 days a week will be done. Either 5 in a row and weekends off, or if I'm busy there will be a break in the week and training will be done on the weekend.

Working on increasing strength and maintaining muscle.


Cardio

I am a big believer in AM cardio, but am unable to do it most days, so I'll be doing it PWO for 45 mins on training days and first thing in the morning on off days.

Cardio will either be 45 mins on the treadmill (highest incline, speed 3.0-4.0. I know that sounds low, but this treadmill is weird. I used to do it on 6.0-7.0 on the old one and it felt the same, so I'm not being lazy, it's just the machine ) or a 45 minute jog around the neighbourhood.







That's pretty much it. Not sure if I'll log my diet in here every day, but I'll try. I will be recording it every day for myself in an excel spreadsheet, which I hate doing and find incredibly anal, but it's got to be done.

As most of you know I have previous eating issues, and when I attempt any kind of calorie restriction I get very hungry, constantly think about food and have an uncontrollable urge to binge. Therefore, this will be an amazingly challenging personal battle and it will take my utmost determination and will power to stay on track. If the demons begin to rear their ugly heads again then I may have to pull the plug for now. My physique is not worth sacrificing my personal and mental wellbeing, which is what happened last time. I'm just aiming for a 3 month cut by the end of which I'll hopefully look nice and lean and ready to add some serious mass.

I'm ready to put a sh1t load of work in! Let's see what I can do


Pics (only uploaded one so far as I can't figure out how to get them the right way round. They're facing upward in photobucket. Once I figure it out I'll upload the rest





















PS those two specs on my boxers are ink stains from when my pen leaked in my pocket
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 19:57
PBs

Deadlift 165kg for 2 reps
Squat 120kg for 3 reps
Bench 60kg for 4 reps

As you can see, my chest is seriously lagging. I now bench twice a week (one heavy and one light day) to get the weight up. Looking to add 20kg or so to my squat and I'd love to do the same to my deadlift by the end of the cut. Would love to be benching 80kg by the end of it as well.
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:01
Don't get too anal about your diet mate, if your carrying a fair bit of tub its not necessary.

Make small changes in calorie intake or cardio intensity/ volume. Small changes are easier to monitor to find out what works.

Personally I would rather crank up the cardio volume and intensity rather than reducing cals down to silly levels.
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:06


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Don't get too anal about your diet mate, if your carrying a fair bit of tub its not necessary.

Make small changes in calorie intake or cardio intensity/ volume. Small changes are easier to monitor to find out what works.

Personally I would rather crank up the cardio volume and intensity rather than reducing cals down to silly levels.


Yeah me too mate. I absolutely hate being anal. I just find it helps me stick to something better. I'm not blessed with the best genetics and therefore have to watch my cals very carefully.

If I'm taking in 2500 calories (with reduced carbs), doing 45 mins cardio 7 days a week and weight training 5 days a week, and monitor and adjust from there, does that sound like a plan?
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:08
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:11

I just find it helps me stick to something better.


Its easy to stick to something thats simple mate. Its fine being anal but if you overcomplicate things and are anal with it your on a road to no where imo.

I would in all honesty forget about counting calories.

Just have a decent weekly meal plan, if you fail to lose any weight then its very easy just to slightly reduce portion sizes.
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:16


ORIGINAL: T0NY


I just find it helps me stick to something better.


Its easy to stick to something thats simple mate. Its fine being anal but if you overcomplicate things and are anal with it your on a road to no where imo.

I would in all honesty forget about counting calories.

Just have a decent weekly meal plan, if you fail to lose any weight then its very easy just to slightly reduce portion sizes.


I completely agree mate. I'm going to write down everything I eat and keep a loose log, but I won't be clocking grams of carbs or macros or getting too into it. It's just for my piece of mind really. I've tried your suggested way and failed unfortunately. I'm pretty bad at cutting lol . I'm sure this way will help me stay on track .

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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:18
you changed the title already LOL
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:25


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you changed the title already LOL


LOL it was too long. I think this one is more inviting
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:29
what's the reason for the bench mate? being low in comparison with other lifts?
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 20:47
Yeah, I've been recommended by some powerlifters to bench twice a week to get it on a par with my other lifts. It's always been pathetically low and my chest is tiny, so I'm hoping once I start shifting some serious weight it will grow .

Trying to get my squat up as well. My deadlift's gone from 70kg to 165 in a few months and squat has gone from 60gk to 120 in the same amount of time. Bench has gone from 50kg to 60 lol!

The benching twice a week is really helping tho.
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 21:08
Hi Al, good luck with this. I shall stick my nose in from time to time
I know you have lost a lot of weight in the past so you can obviously achieve things when you put your mind to it. Get stuck right in

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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 22:28


ORIGINAL: RedHotF

Hi Al, good luck with this. I shall stick my nose in from time to time
I know you have lost a lot of weight in the past so you can obviously achieve things when you put your mind to it. Get stuck right in


Hey thanks

I could say the exact same thing to you and it would be true. We're going to hate every minute of this. Let's hate it together

We can be a weight loss tag team.

I start properly tomorrow. Need to buy some scales. If I put my back in I'll see my abs in two or three weeks (usually the first to come through). Everything else will take a while

Thanks for t'support
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 22:31
Hello bud, good luck with this new venture of youre. Hope the cut goes well for you

Also i wouldnt get caught up in the scales, use the jeans guide and pictures and measurements for progress IMO, less of a mind fcuk
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 22:36
Yes agree about the scales, evil fackers lol

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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 02 June 2008 23:01


ORIGINAL: theiopener

Hello bud, good luck with this new venture of youre. Hope the cut goes well for you

Also i wouldnt get caught up in the scales, use the jeans guide and pictures and measurements for progress IMO, less of a mind fcuk


Yeah probably a good idea Eddie. I do see many people using them as a guide and having steady progress.

Saying that, on many occasion I've looked at the reading, realised that my weight is the same as last week, thought all is lost and used it as an excuse to binge.....maybe scales aren't such a good idea
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 03 June 2008 18:10
Bought some scales today, but they're a bit sh1te, so back to Wilkos tomorrow. Not sure of weight; probs around 210lbs.

Diet so far today:

2 oatibix w/ SS milk
140g chicken (didn't have any eggs)

140g chicken
Stir-fry veg
20g nuts

160g chicken
20g nuts

50g oats
5 whites, 1 yolk


That's around 1450 cals so far

2 more meals to go, so expect to finish up around 2300cal. However, may be going out tonight (not drinking obv.) and if I do I'll be taking a protein shake with me. That will be an extra 200 or so calories, taking it to around 2500 split between 7 meals.

Of to gym in half an hour. Feel like training lats today; really in the mood for some bent over rows. 45 mins cardio afterwards as well. The cardio room at my gym is sh1te, so I'll probs go for a nice jog (I hate any form of cardio, esp jogging). If they had a cross trainer I'd use that, but it's either outdoors or 80s treadmill in a dingy room.
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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 04 June 2008 00:32
OK, so PWO was 50g oats (180cal), 5 whites and 1 yolk (125cal) so that's around 300

Then 250g quark and 15g peanut butter = 265 cal

That takes it up to 2015 cal

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RE: Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder. Don't nobody wanna lift this HEAVY ASS WEIGHT! - 04 June 2008 14:42
Had 300g cottage cheese and a few almonds last night, taking my total up to around 2300 for the day. Not bad, bang on what I'm aiming for.

Had a huge lie in today. Didn't mean to, but my bed was so comfy and I was exhausted by the cardio last night.

Meal 1 nailed: 50g oats, 5 whites and 1 yolk

That was at about 13:00. Just off into town now to exchange my scales. It's weird cos I don't feel remotely hungry, and I'm usually always hungry. Will take a protein shake with me in case HUNGER STRIKES!

All's good. Will upload the rest of my pics later, seeing as that one's managed to turn itself upright

Pleasant day to all reading this
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RE: Blood, guts and oestrogen (PRE-CUT PICS pg.1) - 04 June 2008 15:06
When was that photo taken, i didnt see that when i posted last

Good legs mate, looks like youve gained some size on your arms too





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