http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080610/tuk-drivers-urged-not-to-panic-buy-fuel-6323e80.html

just topped up my car, anyone else done the same yet?

 

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lol, need to find that garage!

heard its only Shell garages now, so isnt that bad i suppose

 

The government urging people not to panic buy I sometimes thinks backfires on them, and I wouldn't be suprised if people do. In any case petrol prices seem to go up on a weekly occurance so people I think are best off filling their tanks asap to save a little where possible.

Sorry...but did you read this bit:

"Bernie Holloway, spokesman for Hoyer, the biggest of the two transport companies involved in the dispute, said it was "disappointing" that Unite had rejected an improved pay offer last week. "We believe this was a very good offer that would take the average drivers' pay up to around £39,000," he said.

The company said its improved offer, made during a meeting last week, was worth 6.8%."

I'm not a truck driver...but is it really that difficult to drive a truck up and down the country?

Why are they worth 6.8% more than last year? What makes driving a truck so challenging that you deserve 40k+ to do it?

What is it that makes people think they deserve more moola for doing....exactly the feking same as they did a year ago????

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think im gona retrain as a truck driver if those are the wages!!!

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im not going to bother filling up in a mad panic im sure i can find a drop or two when i need it

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Sorry...but did you read this bit:

"Bernie Holloway, spokesman for Hoyer, the biggest of the two transport companies involved in the dispute, said it was "disappointing" that Unite had rejected an improved pay offer last week. "We believe this was a very good offer that would take the average drivers' pay up to around £39,000," he said.

The company said its improved offer, made during a meeting last week, was worth 6.8%."

I'm not a truck driver...but is it really that difficult to drive a truck up and down the country?

Why are they worth 6.8% more than last year? What makes driving a truck so challenging that you deserve 40k+ to do it?

What is it that makes people think they deserve more moola for doing....exactly the feking same as they did a year ago????

As one of my roles within our company I do some class 1 driving when required and shift wide loads. 45Ft by 14Ft dragging behind the tactor unit is not uncommon.

Driving an artic is not as easy as it would seem and its a very stressful job that can lead to very long hours and long nights in the sleeper cab. Its often a right pain in the arse of a job.

39K is an high wage for a driver who is not self employed but id say that alot more jobs which command 39K are alot easier than a tanker drivers in all honesty.

Driving a car is little more than driving a dodgem car in reality. Driving a tractor unit pulling a 40FT load of expolsive fule is a world apart and a taxi driver cab probably pull 25K a year easily.

They deserve it IMO.

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im going to hammer my company van tomorrow and not pip as the protest kicks off

however at the weekend when i am in my own car i will be driving like miss daisy

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don't know about deserving it, my wifes basic is not much more than that before banding and other bonuses and she is a medical registrar in a hospital with 5 years at uni, a medical phd, her membership exams and was working 110 hours a week as a junior doctor when she started.

You would be hard pressed to find a junior doctor earning £40,000 per year.

these drivers and oil refinery workers should not be allowed to strike in the same way the police arnt allowed to. to do so is equivalent to a terrorist attack on the key infrastructure of the country. it cripples us for the sake of a few greedy union led b*stards.

Dont listen to the companys saying that they are getting a 6% pay increse.

the facts are that this pay rise will take them up to the same pay they were getting 15 years ago.
That isnt a typo. All thet are after is getting paid the same amount they did 15 years ago. I know becasue i have a few friends in the buisness.
The oil companys are trying to make them look greedy when in fact there wage has been getting lower and lower over the years.

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don't know about deserving it, my wifes basic is not much more than that before banding and other bonuses and she is a medical registrar in a hospital with 5 years at uni, a medical phd, her membership exams and was working 110 hours a week as a junior doctor when she started.

You would be hard pressed to find a junior doctor earning £40,000 per year.

these drivers and oil refinery workers should not be allowed to strike in the same way the police arnt allowed to. to do so is equivalent to a terrorist attack on the key infrastructure of the country. it cripples us for the sake of a few greedy union led b*stards.

In pritty sure there have been strikes by members of the medical profession(s) in years gone by. The firefighter have been out on stike thats for sure,

Are these not just as bad if not far worse?

I dont understand the reason to put down the drivers with comparisons to other professions?

The days when the blue collar workers had to bow down to the white collar higher class have gone im pleased to say.

Why should a Jr Doctor earn more than a truck driver?

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Dont listen to the companys saying that they are getting a 6% pay increse.

the facts are that this pay rise will take them up to the same pay they were getting 15 years ago.
That isnt a typo. All thet are after is getting paid the same amount they did 15 years ago. I know becasue i have a few friends in the buisness.
The oil companys are trying to make them look greedy when in fact there wage has been getting lower and lower over the years.

Because more people drive now and hence there's more competition for the job?

More people after the same job pushes wages down. That's inevitable. If people don't want the pay that's on offer why don't they change jobs? That's what everyone I know does. All my mates are are used to jumping around companies, whoever will be best for their careers. One of them is 26 and has worked for 3 different companies, with each career move being a promotion in a new firm.

I just don't agree with this whole mentality in general. The economy sorts out wage problems if you let it. If a company can't get the staff, they'll raise wages or benefits, if they have tons of people to pick from, all much of a muchness (in terms of being able to perform the task at hand), then they'll not increase pay but keep it fixed since pay decreases are next to impossible to implement.

I expect there are 10x as many qualified truck drivers now as 15yrs ago, especially since we now have the right to work anywhere in the expanded EU. Why should they pay 40k if they can get someone to do it for 30k?

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don't know about deserving it, my wifes basic is not much more than that before banding and other bonuses and she is a medical registrar in a hospital with 5 years at uni, a medical phd, her membership exams and was working 110 hours a week as a junior doctor when she started.

You would be hard pressed to find a junior doctor earning £40,000 per year.

these drivers and oil refinery workers should not be allowed to strike in the same way the police arnt allowed to. to do so is equivalent to a terrorist attack on the key infrastructure of the country. it cripples us for the sake of a few greedy union led b*stards.

In pritty sure there have been strikes by members of the medical profession(s) in years gone by. The firefighter have been out on stike thats for sure,

Are these not just as bad if not far worse?

I dont understand the reason to put down the drivers with comparisons to other professions?

The days when the blue collar workers had to bow down to the white collar higher class have gone im pleased to say.

Why should a Jr Doctor earn more than a truck driver?

I agree.

I don't think anyone deserves a wage that's more than what the market is willing to pay them. Otherwise we (the tax payer and consumer) end up subsidizing (read: paying tooth and nail) for other people's laziness in not expanding their own horizons.

If the NHS doesn't pay doctors enough, the dr should look elsewhere. The NHS will then increase benefits or pay and....magically like they do now...find doctors from India and Pakistan beating a path to their door. Same with truck drivers. How many Polish truck drivers would accept 30k?

I think a person deserves the value they create. If you're worth X amount to someone, you should get that. Not some magically moral number devised by general consensus as what's "right".

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the army should be called in to drive oil tankers in these situations and in actual fact we should take the delivery and production of oil under govt control. striking refinery workers/drivers is targeted at the public and the people who are directly affected are innocent victims.

as far as doctors go, what incentive is it for an individual to become a doctor working for the govt/NHS for buttons when he/she would earn more working as a driver for an oil company? Let the market decide in both situations as long as standards are maintained or improved upon, allow all doctors to go private full time and let them earn what they can.

It's not targeted at the public, it's targeted at their employers. Nearly all strikes of any role will eventually lead to disruption to the public, it cant be helped.

What do you expect them to do, just sit and moan like the rest of the uk and get nowhere.

they should be able to do what they want to do action wise but at the same time so should the employers. I would hope that the employers are looking at alternatives in future (sacking all drivers and factoring out deliveries to 3 or more contractors). let the free market decide.

I would say a 6% rise would leave you no better off than a year ago due to price rises.

they said it was something like 500 drivers, thousands of people want to be truck drivers.. should just pay them all off then re-advertise the jobs for £30K a year and they will fill 500 spots like no tomorrow

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they said it was something like 500 drivers, thousands of people want to be truck drivers.. should just pay them all off then re-advertise the jobs for £30K a year and they will fill 500 spots like no tomorrow

One of the biggest over-subscribed Jobs when it comes to applications is as a Fireman. Maybe they should have all been sacked when they went on strike?

After all you could cut the wages by 25% and its fair to say that you would still fill all the roles.

The Goverment closed down the coal mines and sacked the miners so it could import coal from Columbia that was mined under near on slave labour conditions and used child labour. An extreme example of getting the cheapest deal on offer

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