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Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 14:28
Long term i have always struggled to increase weight for chest exercises despite the fact that my deadlift and squats seem to progress nicely and are quite good.

I am 6'2" and around the 16 stone mark with quite long limbs (lanky mofo !!) I deadlift 170 KGs for reps and squat 140 Kgs but i struggle to bench 80 kgs (barbell) Does anyone else have this problem, can you recommend any suggestions ?
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 14:36
same as me. i cannot push that great. ive found decline on a smith machine is good, just gotta keep doing it.
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 14:37
Post up routine and diet, it could be either/both/neither.
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 14:39


ORIGINAL: Selecta

Long term i have always struggled to increase weight for chest exercises despite the fact that my deadlift and squats seem to progress nicely and are quite good.

I am 6'2" and around the 16 stone mark with quite long limbs (lanky mofo !!) I deadlift 170 KGs for reps and squat 140 Kgs but i struggle to bench 80 kgs (barbell) Does anyone else have this problem, can you recommend any suggestions ?



Same Dead 110+ for 8 Squat 80+ for 8 But Struggle with bench at 57.5kg ish for 6-8.
All though im 5' 7"
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 15:38
Back/Biceps

Deads - 3*6
Lat pull - 3x8
Cable Row - 3x8 Super set with Kinda row thing on cable preacher curl machine!
Barbell curl - 3*8
Maybe throw in a couple of sets of hammer dumbell curls to finish

Chest/Triceps

Barbell bench - 3*8 (currently using smith machine for this)
Inc Bench - 3*8
Low Cable flies - 3*8 Super set with Machine Flies
Tricep dip machine - 3*8 Super set with Close grip chest press
Tricepo pushdown - 2*8 superset with Rope pushdown - 2*8

Legs/Shoulders
Squats - 3*6
Leg Press - 3*8
Ham curls - 3*8
Calf raise - 3*15
Mil Press - 3*8
couple of sets of dumbell press seated to finish off depending on time

My diet is average at best of times so no point in putting this in really which maybe part of the problem, though any comments on routine more than welcome!
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 15:48

My diet is average at best of times so no point in putting this in really which maybe part of the problem


Maybe it is.
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 15:53
Yeha but surely its not just that as wouldnt my other lifts be stagnating if it was just due to diet?
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 15:56
Possibly, but unless you cover this particular base you will never find out.

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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 16:44
i was the same for years mate. i'm 30yrs old, 6ft 2" and weight around 225-230lbs. i would like to think that i am quite strong however i have always lacked in strength in my chest area. although it has improved my chest development is still a weak point. i train hard 4 times a week and have a good solid diet of 7 small regular meals a day. if i'm really being picky its my upper and inner chest that really lacks develpoment.
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 17:12
Im weaker at pushing movements. Still progress in size and strength, but no where near as much as Legs or Back. Although I'd never expect it be as good as them, as Chest/Shoulders/Triceps cover less area than Back and Legs.
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 11 June 2008 18:34
i too struggle with pushing/pressing than pulling and legs, thing is though im my case i attribute it to instability problems with one of my shoulders.

However i'm slowly increasing of late the weight i'm pressing on decline and to a point, incline (both BB)

My particular problem currently is lack of upper regions of the chest, in fact all may chest is just fat more than any muscle.

All i do are the above mentioned exercises for chest.

I do:
Decline BB Bench
Incline BB Bench (maybe incline too high @ 40deg ish)
(back work) cable row, T-bar row, bent over laterals
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Squat 170kgx1 105kgx25
Dead 200x1
Decline Bench 80x6
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 08:32
sort your diet as numero uno, its hard to evaluate your growth and training performance when your diet has a direct link to both of them.

if your diet is not suitable to create an anabolic (muscle building) envrionment then your body will not fight against the tide.
The human body is a tremendously effecient system, unless you have all the ducks in a row you will not grow nor improve your lifts.

Chest is a lagging point for me but its a common area for most people as well

keep at it, dont enter the more = more mentallity

sort your diet as best you can and pop into the diet forum for help
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 11:10
cheers mma guy. my diet is good, had help previously in the diet and nutrition forum so i know its sound. i have no problems in other body parts so do i just put it down to genetics or my weak body part???
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 11:47
nope, you just havent been training long enough
even for pros and top level amatuers, the chest only really took shape once they had been knuckling down with hard training for a fair few years.

the chest isnt a muscle like quads/lower back etc that get worked everyday by normal day to day tasks.
unless you go up stairs push up style

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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 12:33

unless you go up stairs push up style


Not a bad idea! I work on the third floor at my work so i'll try this for a couple of months and see if it helps growth

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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 13:04
RK86 Nice Sig!

MMA guy some soudns advise there really good stuff you on fire aorund the forum at the mo!
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RE: Just cant progress with chest - 12 June 2008 23:28
to be honest I was stuck at bench, then I focused more, got angary and gave some welly, I added 10KG in a few months, which for me is usually about 1yrs progress. Having the balls to go for (and get) that extra is what it takes. I found having good spotters helps, they will be there if I need it but other than that none of this index finger assistance rubbish when the rep is slow.
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