I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

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Anyway, what do you want from this supp, why are you looking towards this at 17?

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Because let's face it, i've trained 2.5 - 3 years somewhere around that mark naturally, and i'm sick of sitting around getting 2 - 3 lbs a month, i'm only aiming to get to about 210lbs anyway. I really can't see a 4 - 6 week course ****ing my endocrine much.

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I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

Discuss.

No one will have the blue bottle anymore - it's been over a yr out of production. The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of PCT, not required but rebound or 6-Oxo won't hurt.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

*this is truly "do what I say not what I do" lol...since I recall trying 19Nor at your age :)

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between 17 and 21 i have made good continuous natural gains, more so the more sorted and finely tuned my training & diet became. at 17 you have plenty of natural testosterone tbh, i'd make the most of it.

sorry i can't advise on JW

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Because let's face it, i've trained 2.5 - 3 years somewhere around that mark naturally, and i'm sick of sitting around getting 2 - 3 lbs a month, i'm only aiming to get to about 210lbs anyway. I really can't see a 4 - 6 week course ****ing my endocrine much.

those are good gains mate, if you aint got the patience nor the intelligence to realise progress isn't linear then you wont last long

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I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

Discuss.

No one will have the blue bottle anymore - it's been over a yr out of production. The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of PCT, not required but rebound or 6-Oxo won't hurt.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

*this is truly "do what I say not what I do" lol...since I recall trying 19Nor at your age :)

I eat like **** all day every day, easy over 200 grams of protein. And i'm taking creatine.

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I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

Discuss.

No one will have the blue bottle anymore - it's been over a yr out of production. The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of PCT, not required but rebound or 6-Oxo won't hurt.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

*this is truly "do what I say not what I do" lol...since I recall trying 19Nor at your age :)

I eat like **** all day every day, easy over 200 grams of protein. And i'm taking creatine.

[irony]deffo need some hormonal help then... [irony]

iopener's linear progression comment sums it up for me

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I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

Discuss.

No one will have the blue bottle anymore - it's been over a yr out of production. The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of PCT, not required but rebound or 6-Oxo won't hurt.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

*this is truly "do what I say not what I do" lol...since I recall trying 19Nor at your age :)

I eat like **** all day every day, easy over 200 grams of protein. And i'm taking creatine.

I've spent long enough being patient, since i've come all the way from 120lbs (around 8 stone ish) I haven't got long left since i've got to be doing stuff, and the gym will have to take a back seat aswell as my massive ammounts of calories a day. I at least want to hit 210 by the end of this year.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

good advice, even though Jungle Warfare is arguably little more than a decent test booster it probably could also be considered to be very very mild ds. i agree though no pct is required except for otc as mentiond but at 17 lots of things to try (as above) before you og for anything hormonal.

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I'm going to be taking jungle warfare, i know people say you don't need PCT but i'm going to run rebound xt or 6-oxo anyway. I've been training for about 2.5 years, i'm 5ft 10, 190lbs around 10 - 12% bodyfat, oh and i'm 17.

Does anyone know if this is the version that people say there is 6-dmt in ?

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=780

Discuss.

No one will have the blue bottle anymore - it's been over a yr out of production. The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of PCT, not required but rebound or 6-Oxo won't hurt.

At 17 I'd avoid anyway. I'd go on a great creatine based stack and possibly increase my overall protein intake...since I think you should be avoiding hormonals till you're a little older*

*this is truly "do what I say not what I do" lol...since I recall trying 19Nor at your age :)

I eat like **** all day every day, easy over 200 grams of protein. And i'm taking creatine.

I've spent long enough being patient, since i've come all the way from 120lbs (around 8 stone ish) I haven't got long left since i've got to be doing stuff, and the gym will have to take a back seat aswell as my massive ammounts of calories a day. I at least want to hit 210 by the end of this year.

any gains you reap will last about 10 minutes then.

just being honest i am natural and 1 month of no gym and less cals due to injury has meant a weight loss of nearly a stone, this will be more pronounced with chemically derived muscle.

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When i meant backseat, i will still attend 4 times a week, i just won't obsess over it as much as i do now, so know, my gains wont be lost.


EDIT: Well i'm starting tomorrow and i'm not going back on it tbh.

At 17 it's not needed, IMO. Spend the money on some extra food.

The present one (red bottle) is rumoured to maybe contain 6-dmt

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^^^ Agree with above, almost took DSs when was around your age mate but luckily thanks to advice opted not too. If gains have slowed bump up your protein, should be eating 2g per lb bodyweight anyway at your age to get good gains, 2/3 lbs a month is pretty solid too.
Take our advice if you wish or just ignore it, but speaking from experience you'd be better off eating a ****load more clean food through 8 or 9 meals in the day buying a good preworkout and post workout supps, creatine, arginine, a good multi and maybe throw in BCAAs and glutamine throughout the day.
Leave the JW and other DS until hit 20 or so and really get stuck on a plateau

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^^^ Agree with above, almost took DSs when was around your age mate but luckily thanks to advice opted not too. If gains have slowed bump up your protein, should be eating 2g per lb bodyweight anyway at your age to get good gains, 2/3 lbs a month is pretty solid too.
Take our advice if you wish or just ignore it, but speaking from experience you'd be better off eating a ****load more clean food through 8 or 9 meals in the day buying a good preworkout and post workout supps, creatine, arginine, a good multi and maybe throw in BCAAs and glutamine throughout the day.
Leave the JW and other DS until hit 20 or so and really get stuck on a plateau

I take all that, and at one point i was topping 6000 cals a day and massive ammounts of protein, it still doesn't change the fact you can't gain any more than 2lbs of LBM a month staying lean. I've been passed the "advised not to" stage year or so ago, i've made my mind up tbh and i know i won't regret it. It's not like i'm jabbing test or anything.

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^^^ Agree with above, almost took DSs when was around your age mate but luckily thanks to advice opted not too. If gains have slowed bump up your protein, should be eating 2g per lb bodyweight anyway at your age to get good gains, 2/3 lbs a month is pretty solid too.
Take our advice if you wish or just ignore it, but speaking from experience you'd be better off eating a ****load more clean food through 8 or 9 meals in the day buying a good preworkout and post workout supps, creatine, arginine, a good multi and maybe throw in BCAAs and glutamine throughout the day.
Leave the JW and other DS until hit 20 or so and really get stuck on a plateau

I take all that, and at one point i was topping 6000 cals a day and massive ammounts of protein, it still doesn't change the fact you can't gain any more than 2lbs of LBM a month staying lean. I've been passed the "advised not to" stage year or so ago, i've made my mind up tbh and i know i won't regret it. It's not like i'm jabbing test or anything.

Then go for it. If you've made your mind up no point in asking lol.

I don't think it'll do much damage - Arnold was taking dbol at 15 (according to the biography I read a couple articles) - so JW at 17 is unlikely to have any major long term impact.

It would probably be better leaving all that stuff till you're older, but if you've already made up your mind I'd probably just make sure you're drinking lots of water on cycle and take something mild afterwards for PCT.

I'll probably get flack for saying this...but if you've already made your mind up, just make sure you're taking all the precautions you can since your young. Loads easier to damage yourself at 17 than at 25.

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^^^ Agree with above, almost took DSs when was around your age mate but luckily thanks to advice opted not too. If gains have slowed bump up your protein, should be eating 2g per lb bodyweight anyway at your age to get good gains, 2/3 lbs a month is pretty solid too.
Take our advice if you wish or just ignore it, but speaking from experience you'd be better off eating a ****load more clean food through 8 or 9 meals in the day buying a good preworkout and post workout supps, creatine, arginine, a good multi and maybe throw in BCAAs and glutamine throughout the day.
Leave the JW and other DS until hit 20 or so and really get stuck on a plateau

I take all that, and at one point i was topping 6000 cals a day and massive ammounts of protein, it still doesn't change the fact you can't gain any more than 2lbs of LBM a month staying lean. I've been passed the "advised not to" stage year or so ago, i've made my mind up tbh and i know i won't regret it. It's not like i'm jabbing test or anything.

Then go for it. If you've made your mind up no point in asking lol.

I don't think it'll do much damage - Arnold was taking dbol at 15 (according to the biography I read a couple articles) - so JW at 17 is unlikely to have any major long term impact.

It would probably be better leaving all that stuff till you're older, but if you've already made up your mind I'd probably just make sure you're drinking lots of water on cycle and take something mild afterwards for PCT.

I'll probably get flack for saying this...but if you've already made your mind up, just make sure you're taking all the precautions you can since your young. Loads easier to damage yourself at 17 than at 25.

Sound for that.

I'm going to start tomorrow, i'll probably drop a few posts later on to let people know how it's going :D

As above really....you dont need JW to get decent gains at your age.

But as you have made up your mind about JW i would say it is a decent product...i ran it for 8 weeks (4 weeks with BAM) with no PCT and i had decent gains (nothing spectacular so dont go expecting miracles)

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