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So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 11 June 2008 22:44
Hello everybody!!! Ive just started using HGH (Somatropin) and im experiencing some sides. Nothing that bothers me too much. Sides dont really get to me I know they are part and parcell with what we're taking but im still curious and want to stay on the safe side. Started 4 weeks ago on the test and 2 weeks ago on the HGH:

4iu Somatropin ED (Everyday)
750mg Test E per week (Cidoteston)

Im getting a tingly sensation and tightness/numbness in my hands which i've read is a common side but what im finding strange is the back of both my knees are really really itchy!!! Always at night!!! Anyone else experienced this? Partyboy?
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 12 June 2008 11:18
I tend to get itchy at night when taking gh
Also most bones are really aching when I get up, perticularly collar bone
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 12 June 2008 15:56
Its nuts so itchy at night but fine during the day???

So ive got some aching bones to look forward to aswell eh? Ha ha oh well hope its worth it. Thanks for the post mate.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 13 June 2008 13:14
I'm using 10iu a day so you may not get much bone ache, but prepare for it anyway
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 19 June 2008 12:36
I wouldn't worry about it mate, my hands/arms go numb and tingly alot, and my collar bones give me jip, especially in morning!! and i've never took any steroids/performance enhancing drugs, just part of lifting i guess, Also lower left hand side of back of neck is almost permanently numb!! And get tension headaches. Deadlifts are to blame mostly.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 19 June 2008 15:46
Yeah numb hands and leg pains are fairly common when you first start taking it but I wouldn't worry they usually pass.

LOL when I took HGH for the first time I couldn't work out the dose correctly (wierd Genetrophin) vial and was taking 18iu's ED for week before somebody smartened me up. I had hands so numb I couldn't lift anything and I swear I temporarily grew half an inch in height.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 19 June 2008 17:30
You grew an inch in a week?
Your growth plates must still be open, how old are you Raven?
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 08:30
Think I was about 25 or 26 when I first tried it, it was only about half an inch but Iswear I wasn't imagining it and of course it wasn't permanent
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 12:48
Ok, without appearing to be having a go (I'm not, I'm trying to be helpful) if you understood the mechanisms of GH efficacy a bit better, you'd sack the 4iu every day and go with 8iu every other day.

You use no more, it saves you pins, has less effect on your own endocrinology and promotes anabolism far more efficiently because of the higher doses released in a pulsatile fashion.

There is research all over the net regarding this and I'm amazed so many people still stick to low or moderate dose ED shots when trying to promote lean tissue gains through the administration of exogenous rHGH.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 13:13
rightyho, what dose would you recommend for lean tissue gains - 8iu eod?
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 13:30

ORIGINAL: BigDJ

rightyho, what dose would you recommend for lean tissue gains - 8iu eod?

In all honesty, and this is not me advocating this but merely passing on knowledge from people I know who are far more advanced as competitors than I could ever hope to be, I think you are p1ssing in the wind at anything less than 12iu EOD.

Sad thing to write given the expense but, if it's GH-derived anabolism you want, that's literally the price you have to pay.
I know so many people in the UK and abroad who have run 4iu/day or even 8iu eod and got very little return until they went to 12iu EOD or more.

Personally, I'd never bother. I'm not prepared to pay the price in monetary terms or, potentially, in health terms.

Fat loss is a different matter - 4iu a day will help that along reasonably well, especially combined with T3 and clen.

But given the price, T3 and clen alone will do almost the same job - you just won't feel as full when on low carbs.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 13:36
Ok thanks a lot for that rightyho
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 14:53
Rightyho

Im always interested when some one writes some thing thats different to the norm. Im interested in using growth. Where did you get your info from m8??? Got any good links to sites with good info?? Cheers
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 20 June 2008 15:33

ORIGINAL: richyd

Rightyho

Im always interested when some one writes some thing thats different to the norm. Im interested in using growth. Where did you get your info from m8??? Got any good links to sites with good info?? Cheers

I talk regularly with people a bit more advanced than the board norm mate.
Lots of posters on a US board are retired pros or the prep-men behind them, who have no axe to grind and say it like it is.
Plus, google is a wonderful tool for searching out medical journal literature and proper peer-reviewed studies.
However, for every theory and supporting evidence thrown up, there's an opposite available too - to denegrate and counterclaim it.
Bit like CEE - lots of studies show it's great. New one just coming to light (not sure if it's published yet - I got a load of literature through from a supplement manufacturer I'm close to) shows it's not delivering what it's supposed to.
It's a case of believing who you choose to sometimes but I respect the people I interact with on a couple of other boards and their evidence points to large dose EOD or even larger dose ETD administration of GH.
No doubt someone will now post a study to show twice a day administration to be the best route.
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 14 July 2008 16:49
I am due my first batch of HGH and to be honest I have spent the last while researching everything on here although there seems to be some conflicting information, I would appreciate any further info before I take the great leap forward
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RE: So im using HGH for the first time!!! - 15 July 2008 09:21
Tbh I've used gh ed and eod shots, and I feel if your using it long term it makes little difference, so eod shots would be better due to less shots and convienience etc
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