I have compiled a resource for one of our other sites, but you guys on MT may find it useful.

It's a chart of Storage of Micronutrients in the Body and I've covered all the main vitamins and minerals with the RNIs.

You can view it here

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Good info.

James, haven't you considered studying nutrition/dietetics beyond graduate level?

Now with PM's enabled!

Is "stored" the right word for the minerals? I would of thought the areas with high concentration would be where they are primarily used??? Calcium would be a notable exception, though even then bone is a storage and usage situation....

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Good info.

James, haven't you considered studying nutrition/dietetics beyond graduate level?

Yes - maybe one day I will. But time will just not permit ATM. Any time I would spend I'd feel needs to be spent on doing work. I'd love to have a phD in nutrition.

Why do you ask?

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Is "stored" the right word for the minerals? I would of thought the areas with high concentration would be where they are primarily used??? Calcium would be a notable exception, though even then bone is a storage and usage situation....

Yes stored is the correct term. For example consider calcium homeostasis. Where do PTH (parathyroid hormone) and calcitonin go with calcium as their first port of call? Bone

Plus it's the term COMA (Committee on Medical Aspects of Food Policy) use

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James, going slightly off but given the general requirements listed there is it safe to say if the cheaper Vit/min tablets conform to the above then that`s fine ? ( I ask as my other half insists on buying the more expensive ones in the belief they are `better`)

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James, going slightly off but given the general requirements listed there is it safe to say if the cheaper Vit/min tablets conform to the above then that`s fine ? ( I ask as my other half insists on buying the more expensive ones in the belief they are `better`)

They are the Reference Nutrient Intakes which were compiled in 1991 - some I feel a little dated, though they all prevent deficiency.

However, in this respect, then yes, the cheaper micronutrient preparations do conform to the RNIs

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Cheers James.

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Dodging the rain and bullets since 1966.

James i'm beginning studying for a degree in nutrirtion in september, and i know that i am going to find this site and the wisdom of you and the other knowledgeable members invaluable over the next few years. i already do feel that through this site and my own research i will have a great headstart in the first year. I'm so pleased to have discovered the subject which i am most passionate about, its took me 3 years! (now 21)

do you mind me asking what your qualifications are and where you studied? purely out of curiosity.

also though there are many very knowledgable unqualified members, do you know which others have nutrition related degrees? i know bigLes is for one, and he studied in leeds to where i am going, and of course drewsky, any others?

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James i'm beginning studying for a degree in nutrirtion in september, and i know that i am going to find this site and the wisdom of you and the other knowledgeable members invaluable over the next few years. i already do feel that through this site and my own research i will have a great headstart in the first year. I'm so pleased to have discovered the subject which i am most passionate about, its took me 3 years! (now 21)

do you mind me asking what your qualifications are and where you studied? purely out of curiosity.

also though there are many very knowledgable unqualified members, do you know which others have nutrition related degrees? i know bigLes is for one, and he studied in leeds to where i am going, and of course drewsky, any others?

Good for you mate - we need more people on credible nutrition courses, as opposed to the rubbish 2p ones done with unofficial organisations. I'll gladly help you where I can in the next few years

Please sign up to dietetics.co.uk and tell your fellow students about it - that's how you can repay me!

My qualifications are BSc (Hons) in Nutrition is Dietetics which I did at Uni of Surrey and graduated in 1995. I did my professional year at Newcastle.

I'm writing a detailed artcile on nutritional qualifications and the professions and hope to have it finished soon.

I used to be a Registered Dietitian but took myself off the register in 2003 - long story filled with both good and bad!!

other than Les and Drew, ClairieB is also highly qualified in nutrition. There are others too but most or small time posters - though IIRC there is another guy who comes form time to time....

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"Saturation with higher intakes – above 75mg/day. Excess excreted."

So anymore than 75mg of vitamin C is useless? Or have I not understood?

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"Saturation with higher intakes – above 75mg/day. Excess excreted."

So anymore than 75mg of vitamin C is useless? Or have I not understood?

No, that's not the case. Although excess is excreted, in some people more may be required to act as an anti-oxident in the blood. Plus, of course, there is an amount in the blood on it's way to be excreted.

However, yes very high intakes are a waste

James,
With regaurds to fat soluble vitamins, fat must there before eaten in our diets correct?
However, how much would be "required" is it a case of "just eat some through the day and hope" or are there baselines which people would aim for to ensure vitamins are absorbed.

My diet is currently very low in fat(around 10%, or 20g a day) and i take my multivitamin with a fatty meal if possible, which may help(or may not?).
So what fat intake should one aim for with regaurds to these fat soluble vitamins?

Thanks

My posts are all my opinion and based on current knowledge/understanding.

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James,
With regaurds to fat soluble vitamins, fat must there before eaten in our diets correct?

Not sure I understand....

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James i'm beginning studying for a degree in nutrirtion in september, and i know that i am going to find this site and the wisdom of you and the other knowledgeable members invaluable over the next few years. i already do feel that through this site and my own research i will have a great headstart in the first year. I'm so pleased to have discovered the subject which i am most passionate about, its took me 3 years! (now 21)

do you mind me asking what your qualifications are and where you studied? purely out of curiosity.

also though there are many very knowledgable unqualified members, do you know which others have nutrition related degrees? i know bigLes is for one, and he studied in leeds to where i am going, and of course drewsky, any others?

Good for you mate - we need more people on credible nutrition courses, as opposed to the rubbish 2p ones done with unofficial organisations. I'll gladly help you where I can in the next few years

Please sign up to dietetics.co.uk and tell your fellow students about it - that's how you can repay me!

My qualifications are BSc (Hons) in Nutrition is Dietetics which I did at Uni of Surrey and graduated in 1995. I did my professional year at Newcastle.

I'm writing a detailed artcile on nutritional qualifications and the professions and hope to have it finished soon.

I used to be a Registered Dietitian but took myself off the register in 2003 - long story filled with both good and bad!!

other than Les and Drew, ClairieB is also highly qualified in nutrition. There are others too but most or small time posters - though IIRC there is another guy who comes form time to time....

thanks for the reply mate and the offer of help, i'm sure i'll be taking you up on that!

i shall sign myself up to the site you mentioned and spread the word!

i would have liked to have gone to surrey very much, i think i'm correct in believing its pretty much the best place in the country to study the subject. unfortunatly i didnt quite have the grades to gain a place.

The course i have chosen is accreditied by the nutrition society. It is public health nutrition and is at Leeds Met.
After meeting with a qualified Nutritionist last year i decided that dietetics wasn't for me (at least not initally, though i could always move into this above degree level) and opted for the nutrition route. I shall keep you updated on my progress and what i think of the course and institution.

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James,
With regaurds to fat soluble vitamins, fat must there before eaten in our diets correct?

Not sure I understand....

Well for us to be able to use fat soluble vitamins, i assume we must have some dietary fat intake?
So if we dont, our absorption of vitamins is hindered?(or is this not the case)?

If so, whats the bare minimum levels of dietary fat one should aim for? Right now i'm on a very low fat diet, around 20g...or 10-15%.

My posts are all my opinion and based on current knowledge/understanding.

Well for us to be able to use fat soluble vitamins, i assume we must have some dietary fat intake?
So if we dont, our absorption of vitamins is hindered?(or is this not the case)?

fat soluble refers to the vitamins sotred in the body

most of the fat soluble vitamins can be stored for several months

a very low fat diet over extended periods may hinder absorption...



anyway, why is your intake so low? such a low intake is seldom a good idea

 

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Well for us to be able to use fat soluble vitamins, i assume we must have some dietary fat intake?
So if we dont, our absorption of vitamins is hindered?(or is this not the case)?

fat soluble refers to the vitamins sotred in the body

most of the fat soluble vitamins can be stored for several months

a very low fat diet over extended periods may hinder absorption...



anyway, why is your intake so low? such a low intake is seldom a good idea

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Its just a result of eating protein 200g, carbs to help fill me up/give me energy, and fats whatever is left over in a 1800kcal intake(not much space for them).
They'll increase when i maintain, and bulk up to help remove the calorie deficit im on though.

Appreciate if you can post why its bad/downsides etc by bumping that thread please mate, just to avoid sidetracking this one

Sorry to sidetrack james, back on topic
Thanks

My posts are all my opinion and based on current knowledge/understanding.

You should eat some mate. I am aware you have eating issues, so I won't dwell on the point, but I'm sure you're aware that some things you are doing are not good for health

You'll get some fat sol vits associated with fats in food. However, you do not need fat intake to be able to use fat sol vits, as they will be stored in body fat. Fat in the body doesn't just come from dietary fat, it comes from excess cals, even if it's from a non fat macronutrient (ie protein, carbs and alcohol).

However, yes absorption may be hindered, if fat intake is low.

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Nutrition Consultant www.healthyaction.co.uk
Email: james@muscletalk.co.uk