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 Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager
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Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:04
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7457696.stm

Is it just me or does mentioning the fact that Paul Ince is black and the first black Englishman to manage a Premier League side seem faintly absurd?

I'm a 30yr old, white, straight, male, which probably puts me into the least discriminated category there is. Yet in my infinite wisdom I feel that the ethnicity of a Premier League manager shouldn't even be worthy of a line on the back page of the local rag, let alone the first line of an article of one of the most viewed websites in the world.

Am I being naive?
 
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:06
I'm not touching this with a bargepole.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:09


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I'm not touching this with a bargepole.

It's not meant to be controversial; the opposite in fact.

I find it bizarre, and patronising, that in this day and age people's ethnicity when they reach certain "high powered" positions is even mentioned.

 
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:10
lol jango .find who the reporter is

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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:10
It may not be news worthy for you, but (and I am only guessing) other 'black englishmen' might think differently.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:13


ORIGINAL: JamesR

It may not be news worthy for you, but (and I am only guessing) other 'black englishmen' might think differently.


I agree with original post i cant see what differnce it makes
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:16


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ORIGINAL: JamesR

It may not be news worthy for you, but (and I am only guessing) other 'black englishmen' might think differently.


I agree with original post i cant see what differnce it makes


Maybe that's because your not a black englishmen. btw I am not either so it is purely a guess.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:16
jean tigana was black was he not?

hahaha i cant read, i shall leave it up to teach me for my stupidity
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:18


ORIGINAL: evad

jean tigana was black was he not?

hahaha i cant read, i shall leave it up to teach me for my stupidity

As was Ruud Gullit.

Neither were English though mate.
 
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:19


ORIGINAL: evad

jean tigana was black was he not?

hahaha i cant read, i shall leave it up to teach me for my stupidity

lol. Quoted your post before you edited it.
 
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 21:21


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ORIGINAL: JamesR

It may not be news worthy for you, but (and I am only guessing) other 'black englishmen' might think differently.


I agree with original post i cant see what differnce it makes


Maybe that's because your not a black englishmen. btw I am not either so it is purely a guess.


Only cos i havnt had enough mentalon2 yet hahaha
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 22:20
Saw this on the news earlier. The only reason I would have realised that his being black had any sort of relevance to anyone was when I saw the thread title. Otherwise I wouldn't have even thought about it personally.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 22:23
It would have been John Barnes if he hadn't done soo badly at Celtic!
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 22:50
I think it`s just one of those things they feel they need to mention, adds a bit more to the story.

For what it`s worth he was very highly regarded at Macclesfield ( where he did an excellent job)and even then there were suggestions he would be going to the top in a very short space of time.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 22 June 2008 23:52
Personally the colour of any manager should not be an issue.I cringe when i read 'first Black' anything.Maybe it is more important
to Black people but i think making an issue of it is wrong.

What matters is getting the right man for the job.People should be employed on ability not colour and that should apply to all walks of life.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 23 June 2008 07:40
should be interesting if he fails at his job and it comes to sacking him

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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 23 June 2008 08:21
All i know is the man is a Judas !
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 23 June 2008 09:32
its been debated in football for years why there are so few black managers in British football, so when one is appointed in the top flight it is surely relavant.
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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 23 June 2008 13:32


ORIGINAL: gibbers

All i know is the man is a Judas !


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RE: Paul Ince: 1st black English PL Manager - 23 June 2008 13:47
I'm guessing it's because of either leaving MK dons.

Or having played for Man United and then kissing the liverpool badge infront of Man United supporters (about the biggest sin in the man united handbook).

On the main point, i agree it shouldn't be mentioned, although it is a first his race should not matter one bit, if he has the crudentials then he should be rewarded (which he has been)
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