Alright guys,

My routine is now twice a week and was wondering is doing squats & deads ok to do on the same day?? My routine looks like this-

Monday:
Squats
Deadlift
Calfraise
Wide grip pull ups
Bicep Curls

Tues: REST/sometimes football after work

Wednesday:
Bench
Shoulder Press
Dips
Chins

Thurs: Football/Cardio

Friday: Rest/drink

Saturday: Rest at the moment but Football when season starts (match days)

Sunday: Rest

Also wondering, not been gym for 2weeks coz I'm in the middle of moving home and decorating new gaff after work etc, etc.....Will there be a significant loss of strength when I hit the gym by next week??

Please all comments and suggestions welcome with helping me with a good twice a week routine but I suffer with bad DOMS after squats & deads thats why I tend to do them both at least a couple of days before a football day..

Thanks!!

Squat dead same day? Been alot of debating on thís recently. I personally say no. They are both two compound moves where you lift heavier weights than any other exercise. Doing them both on the same day just means youll not be able to give 110% on one of them. Also seeing as both are mass building moves, does it not make sense doing one say on Monday, and the other on Wed or Thursday, having a few days rest inbetween so your body can recover totally before you assault it again with mega weights?

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Yea, I've seen there has been some debate on the question I ask but no real answers jus personal opinions I guess. I can only do a twice a week routine because of playing football & so I thought it would be best to split the routine on a MONDAY & WEDNESDAY to fit around doing the football twice a week aswell.

Bearing in mind I DO NOT wanna be doing squats 1-2days before Football training or match because of DOMS thats why they have to be done say Monday so by Thurs legs are free of pain.

All I want is peoples comments on if my Routine above is Satisfactory for still making gains or should I swtch it up & what should I do to switch it up??

I squat and deadlift on the same day, plenty of food before and after is what is needed

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I squat and deadlift on the same day, plenty of food before and after is what is needed

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i have done it in the past, it is not easy though if you are pushing as far as you can on the first of the two

if you do do them on the same day dont forget that you may then have 6 days to rest your legs whereas on seperate days you may have 3 or 4

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it was used in the 60's by dave draper, deads on leg day.

deads work the lower back and hamstrings and ties in well with squats that work the thighs/hams/glutes.
in essence, a training routine with squats first and deads afterwards ties in well, if you can stomach it!

the weights you lift however will be reduced for deads as the hams will be weakened and a fair amount of energy is spent on squats so there's a kicker

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I've done front squats and deads on the same day. It's hard work but easily doable.

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Thanks for the replies from every1. I guess I'll just carry on with my routine as there has been no comment on changing it up. Must admit that doing the squats before deads does effect the amount on deads I lift compared to when I was doing deads on a seperate day.

Cant say Im a fan of the routine (weird split), but I'd add in some sort of rowing movement (Bent over BB Rows as an example).

If your Deadlifiting after Squats, doesnt mean you have to go full whack, you can still progress at lower intensity and work on aspects like speed of the lift.

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it was used in the 60's by dave draper, deads on leg day.

deads work the lower back and hamstrings and ties in well with squats that work the thighs/hams/glutes.
in essence, a training routine with squats first and deads afterwards ties in well, if you can stomach it!

the weights you lift however will be reduced for deads as the hams will be weakened and a fair amount of energy is spent on squats so there's a kicker

I do not find any reduction in weight for deads, I just take a 5-10min break after squats. If anything I prefer them on the same day as it takes me 5+ days to recover from either deads or squats, so doing them with 3days between would be harder I think

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220K Deadlift (3BW)

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Squats and deads on the same day? That would destroy me!

I train my lower body twice a week and on one of the session I do deadlifts then front squats. Energy wise it is fine aslong as diet is good. I found things like this hard while cutting but on a clean bulk it feels ok.

The only thing that may or may not be a problem for you is, I've found that my hips/core fail me on front squats more than my quads which are pretty fresh after deadlifting. I make up for this by doing a few heavy sets on leg press.

Lower1:
Squats
Leg Press/Bulgarian squats
Hams
Calfs

Lower2:
Deads
Front squat
Leg press
Calfs

Age - 18

Bench - 95kg (at 62kg)
Deadlift - 120kg (at 62kg)
Squat - 100kgx5 (at 62kg)
Front Squat - 92.5kg (at 62kg)

Depends on the person and how quick your CNS recovers i would'nt do it others might.

BW 75KG
Bench 100KG 1RM
Squats 155kg 1RM
Deads 150kg 1RM
Front Squat 100kg 1RM

I've supersetted squats with deadlifts and front squats with romanian deads too.

It's tough.

The problem is with this thread is that there is no definitive answer. I think you will get gains either way. You just have to try it.

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I've supersetted squats with deadlifts and front squats with romanian deads too.

It's tough.

The problem is with this thread is that there is no definitive answer. I think you will get gains either way. You just have to try it.

Yes and what % of your ORM were you using? I can squat and deadlift all day if Im using light weights.

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99% of the time I would advise you to split them up for the best gains in performance and mass.

Still waiting to meet that other 1%......

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Squats and deads on same day is fine if you can handle it.

The point is not handling it, the point is both of them are heavy compound exercises. If you do one there is no way on God's green earth that you can give 100% for the other. Which I see as a waste. Point.

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I've supersetted squats with deadlifts and front squats with romanian deads too.

It's tough.

Why?

Thats like drinking a shot of tequila and then swallow some vodka to take the after taste away.

No point.

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