hey guys

I was reading an article earlier this week that i cannot find the liknk now

saying that creatine puts the kidneys under major stress

does anyone has any info regarding this?

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-creatine.aspx

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thanks James

When taking creatine drink plenty of water this makes a big diffrence. Cleans the system out of any toxins and dehidration with using creatine and exercising.

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There has been no proof of these facts,
Its probably scare mongering.

when the body breaks down creatine, creatinine is one of the by products. and as that is one of the things they look for in a blood test to indicate kidney damage, you could get a false positive for kidney problems. but that is all it is, a false positive.

there have been enough people mega dosing continuously now that we would have seen many more kidney problems if there was an issue

make sure your supplier of creatine is well known and they usualy say on there product this foam of creatine has no bad side affects well mine dos

my brand is sci mx and ive tryed a cheap version of creatine before and it didnt do any thing this stuff is really amazing a get muscle pumps from it and everything a recomend it to any one will make you enjoy working out alot more.

Only buy creatine monhydrate if your woried about your kidneys being damaged it is still the only proven and studied form of creatine ( 15 years of testing on it ) hope i was of help.

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well creatine is a protien when you brak it down and if your having that on top of X amount of protien in your diet and whey potien yes its going to stress your kidneys.

just drink 8 litres of water a day you will be fine - besides i find the stuff gives me an unquenshable thirst anyway. then the reason i don't use it anymore is that im always running to the tiolet.

the gym is like women - takes up all your time, energy and money if you let it.

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well creatine is a protien when you brak it down and if your having that on top of X amount of protien in your diet and whey potien yes its going to stress your kidneys.

just drink 8 litres of water a day you will be fine - besides i find the stuff gives me an unquenshable thirst anyway. then the reason i don't use it anymore is that im always running to the tiolet.

Creatine is not a protein. It's a small organic acid. Size wise, it's around the same size (by mass) as a single amino acid.

If you don't have any pre-existing problems with your kidneys, and you drink a fair amount of water, you shouldn't experience any problems with a normal dosage of creatine. Just make sure that if you DO have a renal exam, that you let the doctor know that you are using creatine (to eliminate him trying to figure out why your creatinine levels are elevated).

Creatine is pretty damn safe. In the relative scheme of things, considering all the supplements that you can put in your body, creatine is one of the better ones (in terms of possible bad sides). There is a ton of research on it, it's been widely used, and it's been in existence for quite some time.

8 LITRES A DAY?!

I drink around 3 litres+ and i'm busting for a whizz every other hour, surely with 8 litres a day you'll be diluting the electrolytes/salts to a dangerous level?

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I've never ever heard of 8 litres a day...i've heard of 8 pints a day.

Yes i do mean water still...

I'm not sure many people can drink 8 litres a day...

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make sure your supplier of creatine is well known and they usualy say on there product this foam of creatine has no bad side affects well mine dos

my brand is sci mx and ive tryed a cheap version of creatine before and it didnt do any thing this stuff is really amazing a get muscle pumps from it and everything a recomend it to any one will make you enjoy working out alot more.

Only buy creatine monhydrate if your woried about your kidneys being damaged it is still the only proven and studied form of creatine ( 15 years of testing on it ) hope i was of help.

thanks man

I tried some in the past and the results were zero

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8 LITRES A DAY?!

I drink around 3 litres+ and i'm busting for a whizz every other hour, surely with 8 litres a day you'll be diluting the electrolytes/salts to a dangerous level?

Yes, water intoxication - it's rare but it does happen - particularly when people down litre after litre over a short period of time.

Copious water intake hinders the kidney's ability to efficiently deal with that intake. In turn, this dilutes blood salt concentrations so that they are lower than the body's cells. Excess water is then taken up by the body's vital organs - including the brain where it plays havoc. Initial symptoms of water intoxication are confusion and headaches caused by brain swelling.

Obviously, an athlete's water intake is likely to be higher than the recommended 1.5 - 2 litres a day, but it's a good idea to remember that water (like anything else) can have a detrimental effect if taken in excess.

On another note, Creatinine (the breakdown product of creatine) is mainly filtered by the kidneys. Hence, additional creatine intake will affect renal rests - as Creatinine levels are used as an indicator of kidney function. However, additional creatine intake should not unduly strain the kidneys in a healthy adult. Of course, if you suffer from some sort of renal impairment, it would be advisable to consult a doctor before increasing creatine intake through supplements.

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well you should get what

2.5 litre a day normally id normally have more than that for various reasons
add at least another one for training as it gets used up when you sweet
add another one for being in the summer

so we re on 4.5+ with out the creatine.

and when i was using the stuff id easily drink an extra 2 litre's

when i was using it i was like the human hose pipe i couldn't go an hour with out needing to go to the tiolet. could just be me mind.

if its just creatine your on then the rule i go by is if im thirsty have a bit more to drink. if your on steroids aswelll you have to be a bit more carefull as the hormones interfere with the signals your body is giving you.

the gym is like women - takes up all your time, energy and money if you let it.