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Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:01
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23501707-details/Woman+poisoned+by+slimming+pills+bought+on+internet/article.do


A woman desperate to lose weight poisoned herself with banned slimming pills she bought over the internet.

Selena Walrond, 26, died five days after starting the course of the drug DNP, which was also used by bodybuilders and as a pesticide.

A Croydon inquest heard how she became so obsessed with losing weight she took a gram of the drug - more than five times the amount used by the most extreme bodybuilders - the day before she died.

Short for dinitrophenol, DNP causes the taker's temperature to rocket and boosts the metabolic rate by interfering with cell respiration.

By inhibiting the cell's ability to breathe, metabolism is increased - meaning fat is burned rapidly.

Miss Walrond, who weighed 15 stone and was 5ft 3ins tall, was found by her mother, Anjennis, in a cold bath as she desperately tried to cool down after the drug sent her temperature soaring.

She was taken to hospital but suffered a cardiac arrest and died.

Croydon coroner's court heard how Miss Walrond had in recent years become so worried about her shape she developed a fear of being seen in public.

The otherwise normal, lively girl had struggled with her weight throughout her twenties.

Her family said she scoured the internet for treatments and eventually found a Chinese website selling the DNP pills. Miss Walrond's sister Asha, 30, a former school administrator, said her self-esteem had been badly damaged by her weight.

She added: "Her weight used to embarrass her and she was not confident enough to leave the house sometimes.

"Selena was quite a chubby baby. She lost all the weight, but when she got to about 21 she started to put it on again. She must have put on about five or six stone over five years."

Her mother took her daughter to hospital after finding her in the bath "sweating, agitatedand running a fever" on 19 August last year. Mrs Walrond said: "Selena's life has been cruelly snatched away, all because she was desperate to lose weight.

"DNP is lethal. Please do not take it. If you want to lose weight, do it the sensible way.

"She had ambitions, she wanted to travel and make a success of herself once she lost the weight."

DNP was popular in the Thirties as a weight loss drug but was banned in 1938 because of fatalities and its side effects, including rapidly developing cataracts.

The drug is also used as a pesticide to suppress plant growth but remains unlicensed in Britain.

Coroner Roy Palmer, recording a verdict of accidental death, issued a warning to stop others from using the fat-stripping pill, adding: "I do not for a moment think Selena intended to die. She intended to lose weight."

 
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:04
Should say the dose she was taking.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:05


ORIGINAL: Paracelsus

Should say the dose she was taking.


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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:06
I wonder if they could have reversed the effects at all after she had taken the overdose if they got to her sooner.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:08

she became so obsessed with losing weight she took a gram of the drug - more than five times the amount used by the most extreme bodybuilders - the day before she died.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:24
Terrible story

This is why I dion't like DNP

All bodybuilding 'diet drugs' find their way into non training overweight womens handbags , and these overweight women don't realise the gaping void (in terms of danger ) between virtually every other slimming tablet and DNP
DNP is dodgy for bodybuilders (IMO) - but for the sort of people that do not research what they are taking , it is like russian roulette

Of course the media (and general public) will take home from this ........ "Slimming drugs that bodybuilders use kill you "

I honestly think the world would be a better place without DNP
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:26

This is why I dion't like DNP

TBH Dr Z this woman bought something she knew nothing about, took serious doses on and this is why shes dead.

Terrible tragic loss of life, but unfortunately i think its indicative todays society when people want to pop a pill vs changing their lifestyle to reach their goals

To put this into perspective, how many die every year of OTC drugs and alcohol abuse compared to the odd story of DNP?
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:28
i was considering using it next summer...
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:31

quote:

This is why I dion't like DNP


TBH Dr Z this woman bought something she knew nothing about, took serious doses on and this is why shes dead.

Terrible tragic loss of life, but unfortunately i think its indicative todays society when people want to pop a pill vs changing their lifestyle to reach their goals

To put this into perspective, how many die every year of OTC drugs and alcohol abuse compared to the odd story of DNP?


The percentage of DNP users to the percentage of the population that use OTC / Alcohol isnt a good argument though is it?
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:33

ORIGINAL: Tomazi8
The percentage of DNP users to the percentage of the population that use OTC / Alcohol isnt a good argument though is it?

I think it is mate. Anything can kill you if you dont know what youre doing with it. You can kill yourself by not sticking to the directions on the packet of paracetamol when it comes to dosages. I mean seriously if something claims to be able to melt fat off of you without you doing anything much does common sense not kick in at some point to see what is it you are taking?
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:41
i agree with you tio but common sense it not common.
 
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:44
Oh I agree totally - but the point is ... there are probably thousands of women taking 5 times the recommended dose of Eph per day - but you'll most likely not hear about them - apart from the odd tripto A&E with palpitations ! - I suspect upping the dosage on 'normal' slimming pills is common place

Yes , she SHOULD have reseached , but at the end of the day she was desperate - it just leaves me a little sad to think a girl is able to buy a pill to lose wieght with and effective dose so close to its LD50 !

I just find it a bit sad , thats all - had she 'found' Clen , eph , T3 - and used the same dose reckoning - she'd still be alive

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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 18:45
There ISN'T a pill that makes weight drop off you with no side effects. They all either screw with your digestion to stop you absorbing fat, or your endocrine to make you uncontrollably loose sugar or your metabolism to make you burn it off. They ALL screw about with important parts of your body chemistry in a way your body cannot always control (as it would stop them if it could).

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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:03
silly silly girl, why didnt she research it before she took it 1g FFS!!!
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:05


ORIGINAL: Noddie

There ISN'T a pill that makes weight drop off you with no side effects. They all either screw with your digestion to stop you absorbing fat, or your endocrine to make you uncontrollably loose sugar or your metabolism to make you burn it off. They ALL screw about with important parts of your body chemistry in a way your body cannot always control (as it would stop them if it could).

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Right. Enough philosophy. It's Beer o'Clock.


Good post ! Now enjoy your beer
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:05


ORIGINAL: GENESIS.

silly silly girl, why didnt she research it before she took it 1g FFS!!!


Because she probably didn't know what DNP was and if it was even in the pill.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:10
what is DNP, besides what it says in the article?

is it still in common use along side clen,t3 etc.?
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:15
Its not a pill - its a gelatin capsule. This is a story of abuse. Take any drug many times its intended dose, you are in trouble. Paracetamol and all manner of pain killers.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:21
to be honest I have two views:

1) how dense do you have to be to by an illegal fat loss sup (when she must have researched it based on it not being the simplest thing to "stumble across" without actually KNOWING what your searching for) and use that much per day (after obviously having done some research imo)

2) how cruel it is to sell something like that (where severe possible lethal consequences can quickly onset) to someone who clearly knows jack **** about working out and diet. we sell stuff like M1T etc but when people ring up, you tell them that side effects are common and ask about their supplement history.

Very sad, but annoying at the same time. Just a waste of life when it could so clearly be avoided.

Agree with Dr Z - think the world would be better if it was harder to get hold of clearly lethal medication.
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RE: Woman poisoned by slimming pills bought on internet - 27 June 2008 19:24


ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Its not a pill - its a gelatin capsule. This is a story of abuse. Take any drug many times its intended dose, you are in trouble. Paracetamol and all manner of pain killers.



Yes but not to the point that DNP is toxic

I have never had much to do with it , but IIRC the 'LETHAL' dose is 4 times the effective dose ? i.e. one tab will work nicely four is almost certain to kill you ?
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