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Happy Birthday Nelson Mandela.....
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27 June 2008 18:04
So it says on the BBC news, wonder if they will be wishing Gerry Adams or Osama Bin Laden a happy birthday in 20 years.....
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27 June 2008 18:08
Ouch! That's political, but is a fair point. Mind you the French Resistance and Danish fighters killed civillians in explosions I believe.
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27 June 2008 18:52
Or Margaret Thatcher.
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27 June 2008 19:22
he was named after the block of flat del-boy lived in apparently happy birthday
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27 June 2008 20:09
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27 June 2008 20:11
why are gerry adams, margerat thatcher and osama bin laden going to be 90 in 20 years time?
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27 June 2008 20:14
ORIGINAL: evad why are gerry adams, margerat thatcher and osama bin laden going to be 90 in 20 years time? Thatcher would be if she was still alive, but she aint a terrorsit so I doubt she will have a big celebration.
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27 June 2008 20:48
ORIGINAL: AU1980 ORIGINAL: evad why are gerry adams, margerat thatcher and osama bin laden going to be 90 in 20 years time? Thatcher would be if she was still alive, but she aint a terrorsit so I doubt she will have a big celebration. She is still alive, she will be 83 in october
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27 June 2008 20:50
i didnt think she was dead, she may look near the end but i dont remember hearing she'd died
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27 June 2008 20:51
absolute legend, big up to him
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27 June 2008 20:57
ORIGINAL: AU1980 ORIGINAL: evad why are gerry adams, margerat thatcher and osama bin laden going to be 90 in 20 years time? Thatcher would be if she was still alive, but she aint a terrorsit This is not a universal view.
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27 June 2008 21:02
John don't bring politics into this. You seem to have strong feelings on certain issues and have to relay them to others, even though it's against the ethos of MT. I'd rather you didn't
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27 June 2008 21:04
I like Mandela. People came into his country and took over, they then proceeded to treat his own people in a disgusting manner. So he decided to take a little direct action, I have no problem with that. I like to think that I'd do the same Some of what he and his cohorts did may have been reprehensible, but when you see your mothers and sisters being raped, and your brothers and fathers being tortured, you too may lose perspective, and commit crimes that may seem inhuman and morally unjustifiable. Only those who have walked in his shoes can judge him, in my opinion. Happy Birthday Nelson
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27 June 2008 21:05
Hang on. Did you read the first post?
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27 June 2008 21:06
ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2 Hang on. Did you read the first post? yes, why? (off topic now - maybe take this to email though I'm going off line)
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27 June 2008 21:12
ORIGINAL: James ORIGINAL: JohnKerr2 Hang on. Did you read the first post? yes, why? (off topic now - maybe take this to email though I'm going off line) Equating Nelson Mandela to Osama Bin Laden isn't political? Edit: Sorry, failed to digest the byline before hitting OK.
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27 June 2008 21:39
ORIGINAL: jango I like Mandela. People came into his country and took over, they then proceeded to treat his own people in a disgusting manner. So he decided to take a little direct action, I have no problem with that. I like to think that I'd do the same Some of what he and his cohorts did may have been reprehensible, but when you see your mothers and sisters being raped, and your brothers and fathers being tortured, you too may lose perspective, and commit crimes that may seem inhuman and morally unjustifiable. Only those who have walked in his shoes can judge him, in my opinion. Happy Birthday Nelson Its the fact that the media and politicans feed us mixed messsages that annoys me. On one hand we are told that terrorism is a despicable crime and unjustifiable, yet on the other a convicted terrorist is treated as a living God.
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27 June 2008 21:55
ORIGINAL: AU1980 Its the fact that the media and politicans feed us mixed messsages that annoys me. On one hand we are told that terrorism is a despicable crime and unjustifiable, yet on the other a convicted terrorist is treated as a living God. Yes, I agree. That's why the media are best kept at arms length for the most part. Terrorism is a despicable crime, but the fear of terrorism has made quite a few of society's 'elite' even more fantastically wealthy and powerful than they already were.
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27 June 2008 22:13
The media forgot when his birthday is then. I wouldn't be pleased if I was him.
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