Any powerlifters/strongmen/strength athletes out there, deadlift is key to power, some are built to deadlift, some are not. I find the deadlift hard to improve. I train it conventional. Im thinking now after months of stalling on the deadlift, of changing to sumo training to increase my conventional. lets compare

conventional deadlift- 210kg
sumo deadlift- 140kg

these are my maxes, so because I havent trained sumo ever it is really low. Im thining of alternating sumo and conventional everyweek, with emphasis to pull a bigger sumo. Anyone just sumo a lot to improve the conventional?

I am in the process of what you are doing- except I am doing it the opposite way round. I have always sumo deadlifted, but as of late, it just doesn't feel right. So am trying to improve my conventional deadlift form. For a comparison, my sumo dead is at 250kg, but my conv is 200. I actually feel stronger off the floor on conventional but have a better lock out on sumo. Come September I am hoping to reverse it all and pull 260 conventional.

ORIGINAL: HELLBOY..

I am in the process of what you are doing- except I am doing it the opposite way round. I have always sumo deadlifted, but as of late, it just doesn't feel right. So am trying to improve my conventional deadlift form. For a comparison, my sumo dead is at 250kg, but my conv is 200. I actually feel stronger off the floor on conventional but have a better lock out on sumo. Come September I am hoping to reverse it all and pull 260 conventional.

Thanks for the reply, very strong deadlift mate,

When I first started deadlifting like 2 year ago, i train deadlift conventional and built to 140kg max, then thought lets try sumo. I did 110kg for like 10 reps thinking this is too easy, just upped the weight and got to 160kg clean with no chalk and and rubbish bb belt, and managed to pull 170kg a bit off the ground.

Then I trained it conventional and after few months built to 210kg, and it stalled for like 1 year there! the 210kg is easy by the way by the looks of it, just 220kg never comes all the way up! Ive always had rubbish form on deadlift, short arms I have, but couldnt sort it out, when it is good for a period of time, then it goes rubbish again like it did last week.

Im tired of conventional training, i need a change, I maxed on sumo at 140kg for i think for a few hard reps, and 180kg didnt budge at all, If I focus on building this up over time, my weakened muscles will be strengthened and I should pull more convo I hope.

HELLBOY- my mate pulls sumo, it stalled, he pulled convo for few months, built a pb in convo, then when he went to sumo, he blasted through the weights, so it should work for you.

Ive got no probs with leg strength, Im a strong squatter, maybe sumo training might make me stronger overall. Will try it out nx week and build up slowly over time.

yeah. Why not throw in some rack pulls to work your lockout. Getting back into this at present to help with the conv deadlift.

ORIGINAL: HELLBOY..

yeah. Why not throw in some rack pulls to work your lockout. Getting back into this at present to help with the conv deadlift.

Yeah my lockout and form are both poor, Ive done lockout work before which hasnt improved, Im now looking into glute activation to make sure my glutes fire, they never ache!

my glutes and quads ache from squatting, but only my hams from deading.
is this bad?

5' 11" 95kg
SQ:205 BP:150 DL:245 OHP:110

ORIGINAL: daKensta

my glutes and quads ache from squatting, but only my hams from deading.
is this bad?

dont think aching means much, but mainly my quads and glutes ache from squatting, deads mainly affects my hams too, just build up your weak points.

You just gota try it out, if it works, stick with it, if not ditch it