OK if all sugars are carbs but carbs aren't all sugars i.e (honey is not a simple sugar it's a simple carb)

simple sugars are simple carbs (like malto, dextrose etc)

simple carbs are like simple sugars but also contain sugars that don't come from fruit like honey

complex sugars are table sugar, sugar in sweets etc

complex carbs like wheat bread, oats are not sugars right?

Now if on a product it says there are 100gr carbs of which 60gr sugars what can those 60gr sugars be? complex sugars, simple sugars ? or does a label with "sugar" written on it automatically mean complex sugars?

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I believe they are natural sugars, Sucrose/Maltose/Lactose/Galactose... whateverelse-ose

So sugar added to foods, or naturally occuring in fruits are listed as sugars.

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I believe they are natural sugars, Sucrose/Maltose/Lactose/Galactose... whateverelse-ose

So sugar added to foods, or naturally occuring in fruits are listed as sugars.

if a drink contains 60gr of carbs without specifying what's in it then I'd say it's all sugars (natural sugars found in fruit i.e malto and dextrose) though in this case most drinks will then write in the ingredients that it's malto and dextrose in it but if it says sugars in the ingredients (and not malto and dextrose) it might be that it's complex sugars ....

Can't be any complex carbs in drinks can there?

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I believe they are natural sugars, Sucrose/Maltose/Lactose/Galactose... whateverelse-ose

So sugar added to foods, or naturally occuring in fruits are listed as sugars.

if a drink contains 60gr of carbs without specifying what's in it then I'd say it's all sugars (natural sugars found in fruit i.e malto and dextrose) though in this case most drinks will then write in the ingredients that it's malto and dextrose in it


If fruits in it, they won't say "Blackberries[Sucrose,Fructose]" or anything like that they'll just list the fruit. If they add sugar, such as dextrose then they will list it as an ingredient yeah.


but if it says sugars in the ingredients (and not malto and dextrose) it might be that it's complex sugars ....
What do you mean by complex sugars? Are you considering monos simple and dissacharides complex?

Glucose is a mono, but then we have sucrose which is a dissacharide and id consider that a "simple" sugar also. Maybe using the word "fast" and "slow" is best.


Can't be any complex carbs in drinks can there?
Under "carbohydrates" on labels these could be amylase(starches) which are polysaccharides(more 'complexed' or long chains, vs glucose for example). I dont think any drink would contain amylose though

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I believe they are natural sugars, Sucrose/Maltose/Lactose/Galactose... whateverelse-ose

So sugar added to foods, or naturally occuring in fruits are listed as sugars.

if a drink contains 60gr of carbs without specifying what's in it then I'd say it's all sugars (natural sugars found in fruit i.e malto and dextrose) though in this case most drinks will then write in the ingredients that it's malto and dextrose in it


If fruits in it, they won't say "Blackberries[Sucrose,Fructose]" or anything like that they'll just list the fruit. If they add sugar, such as dextrose then they will list it as an ingredient yeah.

yes they would list the fruit I agree but in a carb drink there isn't any proper fruit


but if it says sugars in the ingredients (and not malto and dextrose) it might be that it's complex sugars ....
What do you mean by complex sugars? Are you considering monos simple and dissacharides complex?

I mean sacharides yes or table sugar and the actual "bad for you" sugars

Glucose is a mono, but then we have sucrose which is a dissacharide and id consider that a "simple" sugar also. Maybe using the word "fast" and "slow" is best.

well some simple sugars are slow and some complex carbs are fast acting, this is getting confusing lol


Can't be any complex carbs in drinks can there?
Under "carbohydrates" on labels these could be amylase(starches) which are polysaccharides(more 'complexed' or long chains, vs glucose for example). I dont think any drink would contain amylose though

yep don't think there's any complex carbs in drinks either

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What simple sugars are slow, and what complex carbs are fast? you've lost me

If its a carb drink it'll prob be dextrose or glucose which will be listed as ingredients.

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What simple sugars are slow, and what complex carbs are fast? you've lost me

If its a carb drink it'll prob be dextrose or glucose which will be listed as ingredients.

malto is actually a complex carb but it's got the effects of a simple carbs ...we all say malto is a simple carb though

weetabix is listed as complex carbs but is medium/fast acting

Nige will help you more on this as I'm no expert

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Did someone mention my name? There are several types of carbohydrate and they have different effects on blood glucose. I use the terms "fast", "medium" & "slow" to indicate how rapidly they increase blood glucose.

1) Sugars. These are simple carbohydrates. There are monosaccharides e.g. Glucose/Dextrose (fast), Fructose (slow, via the liver) and Galactose (slow, via the liver). There are disaccharides e.g. Sucrose (Glucose+Fructose = Medium), Lactose (Glucose+Galactose = slowish) and Maltose (Glucose+Glucose = fastish). Disaccharides are 2 monosaccharides linked by a glycosidic bond formed by condensation (removal of a water molecule). Disaccharides have to be enzymatically hydrolysed (have a water molecule added) into monosaccharides before they can be absorbed.

2) Starches. These are chains of glucose molecules linked by glycosidic bonds. Starches have to be enzymatically hydrolysed into glucose molecules before they can be absorbed. There are unbranched chains like amylose (very slow) which is also known as resistant starch. There are branched chains like amylopectin and maltodextrin (fast). Glycogen is also a branched chain that is synthesised inside muscle and liver cells and which can be rapidly converted back into glucose.

3) Non-Starch Polysaccharides (NSPs). These are also known as fibre and there are 2 types...soluble (e.g. pectin, beta-glucan & cellulose) and insoluble (e.g. bran). These don't digest (gut bacteria can feed on soluble fibre) and have no direct effect on blood glucose but they do slow down how fast other carbs are digested and absorbed.

Both starches and NSPs are complex carbohydrates.

For more bumph, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate

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